TradeSmith, LLCReviews of tradesmith.com

I canceled the Jeff Clark's Million Dollar Challenge program after losing thousands in the first three trades. I still get email solicitations about the great success they have had. They forget to mention that his stop loss numbers were triggered on 2 trades, but he sent notices saying he was still positive about the trades. I repurchased one trade and that expired worthless. I wasn't about to do the same thing on the second stop loss trade. I have lost thousands on the tradesmith Signals program, too. Don't waste your $$$ with this organization.

Even the Example on their sales pitch page on their website, of their so-called AI was a total inconsistent joke. Forget these clowns.

I was impressed with the presentation of Predictive Alpha and tried 3 times to subscribe and customer service was non existent. Also the pruce that was used in the ad was much lower than the $199.that showed up on my credit card and surprised me. My requests for clarity have gone unanswered with the .message that my subscription has expired to a previous different subscription. Total manic chaos here.Must be untrained bots in charge . Just makes me sad to see a good product so badly managed. Joy

Their Signals product is misadvertised. The accuracy rate is less than 50% . Tradesmith advertised 80- 100%. They do not offer any money back gaurantees. They will allow you to apply a credit to another product, but if the credit is more than the subscription price on the product on which it is being applied, the buyer loses the difference. I have tried a few of their products and only one was woth the subscription price. I lost money on the rest. Tradesmith is a marketing machine with little to back up it's claims.

These guys don't answer support emails even considering straightforward issues you'd want to know about before investing real money with their methods. Questions like: "how does this system perform during market draw downs and bear markets. can you give me real results or even a backtest?". Email both the authors of the system and tradesmith support. Wait 24 hours. Crickets chirping. Send another email. Same result. Not even an acknowledgement of receipt. Anybody can walk on water when the sea is calm. What i really want to know is what happens when the bear market that's lurking out there hits. Am i screwed and if so how badly? They are either unwilling or unable to talk about that one. Addendum: I finally did receive a response more than 48 hours and two emails after my original query. The nameless "customer service" said they could not give that information because it was "proprietary". This is worse than no response at all and I would lower my rating to ZERO stars if I could. One star will simply have to suffice. This response strongly implies they are hiding something. Addendum 2: Response below from tradesmith is BS. What I'm asking for specifically is performance of the low volatility AI portfolio during 2022 which was a mini-bear. Take $5K and run it through selections of the system during that calendar year. Follow the system. Give me a % return. Compare with S&P500 which I believe was -18% for the year. Nasdaq roughly -30%. This isn't rocket science, it doesn't take "particular positions in my portfolio" because the system provides those positions. It provides position sizing. It provides exit dates and times. There is no discretion. So I believe this is a disingenuous response from somebody hiding something. I've given you a very specific, closed form question that can be answered in closed form. Just answer it. Is this an unreasonable request? I know this system gives multiples of S&P returns in bull markets. If it beats the markets during bear markets i'd think you'd be shouting it to the rafters you have made god in a box. If it provides multiples of negative return in bear markets, that puts thing in a very different light. Thank You. Saying "we have that information, but it's 'proprietary'" is an answer that provokes heartburn. It creates, you might say, a "credibility gap". Addendum 3: Again, BS. Rating would be negative 1 * if i could give it. I'm not asking for proprietary information here. You provide a backtest to 2020 for the Super AI portfolio in the "resources" section. The Super AI portfolio didn't exist back then either, yet you somehow produce a performance graph for it. In fact, what I see on that graph is somewhat optimistic. After a fall in early 2022, it looks like that one recovers and goes to a gain in that bear market year. Why is it like pulling teeth to get you to do the same thing for the Low Volatility version of the thing? I know very well how to get performance in forward testing. One more time... I am asking you to provide these stats in the adverse market environment of 2022. You provide a graph for the other system in the "quick start" section of the rexources. I'm not asking for anything proprietary or difficult. I believe those backtest results exist. Addendum #4: Review is up to negative 2*. Kindly carefully read my response above. It DOES reference the "quick start" to which you refer. There is a performance curve in there (without actual numbers) for the AI super portfolio. There is no corresponding result for the low volatility ai portfolio which has actually been running rings around the ai super portfolio whose results are quoted there. I want performance stats on the low volatility ai portfolio during a bear market. I'll settle for the calendar year 2022 which some consider a bear market with the S&P down 18% and Nasdaq down around 30% for the year. This is neither difficult nor "proprietary". Why is this like pulling teeth? I want to know how "bullet proof" a system is before putting real money there. Is that so hard to understand?

just seems to be stating the obvious.

No response to my request for analysis of failure by expensive tactical trading to perform as touted in promos.

I purchased Trades Stop 360 and wanted to cancel it a few days later. I already have Louie’s Growth Investor so it didn’t make sense to me. More importantly, I was recently scammed out of my full retirement of over $1M. Financially, things are really tight. I called for a refund but was told I could only get a credit. I needed a cash refund. During these stressful times most services offer people their money back now. I hope you’ll reconsider refunding my CC. I haven’t us d the service yet. Robyn Pasquito