Astera
V5 is V4 Lite
To be honest, I’m disappointed with V5. V5 feels like a "V4 Lite" but with a higher price tag. Frequently requested customer feedback has either not been addressed or is still being ignored. What is V5 to me? To me, V5 is like a V4 Lite with a more modern UI but fewer features. A major point of criticism is the lack of an official marketplace. The current resources directory is poorly maintained, confusing, and frankly just a bad (very bad) joke. As a user, it’s just frustrating to find new or unread content on a site based on Invision Community. The new text editor is a disaster — texts and images are poorly handled by the software, and there’s little emphasis on consistency. It’s just a mess. If a user creates a post with 10 photo attachments and doesn’t embed them in the text at an appropriate size, you end up scrolling forever, and it looks terrible. The software heavily relies on external services and offers many embeds — unfortunately without proper opt-in solutions, making it hard to use legally in Europe. Back when we asked support, they said, “Our software can be used without concern, and the embeds are fine, but we’ll make some improvements.” What happened instead? They added a cookie consent tool no one wanted and hardly anyone uses. We even got hit with an expensive legal warning because of the embeds. So in terms of European data protection, it’s a no-go. The Invision team also made false promises in this regard. Pricing: The cheapest cloud package costs $1,068 per year. The self-hosted package is $199. You’re forced to renew the license annually; otherwise, the software’s spam protection stops working. Within two weeks of expiry, you’ll be flooded with over 100 spam accounts — all of which you must delete manually, as there’s no proper bulk deletion process. But hey, maybe there’s a plugin for that… wait, where do I even search for it? Right, there isn’t a proper plugin directory. If you don’t renew after a year, you’ll have to pay the full new price of over $500. How does the competition do it? The competition (e.g., XenForo) runs databases like StopForumSpam locally on their own servers, and the protection works even without an active license. It’s great that Invision is on Trustpilot — though criticism of their own software tends to disappear mysteriously. BUT The Invision Suite was an amazing piece of technology — about four years ago. The software had a unique dynamic and community flow that no other platform could match. It was genuinely fun to work with. But even V5 now feels outdated and uninspired. Creating content is tedious and no longer enjoyable. I don’t believe anything will improve with Invision, so we’re switching to XenForo.
Response from Invision Community ClassicApr 28, 2025
Hi, I’ll go through your feedback but as always, Trustpilot seems to attract a disproportionate amount of negative views, whereas our feedback forum (https://invisioncommunity.com/forums/forum/499-feedback/) is full of real customers offering their thoughts and opinions. If you want a true reflection of customer satisfaction, this would be worth exploring. We do not remove negative criticism, as long as it’s constructive and professional. “To me, V5 is like a V4 Lite with a more modern UI but fewer features.” V5 is a major new feature release with dozens of new features including a comprehensive visual theme editor, new page editor, new post editor, new ways to reduce time and friction on the community and more. Regardless, the volume of features isn’t a good barometer for what makes good software in our opinion. “The new text editor is a disaster — texts and images are poorly handled by the software, and there’s little emphasis on consistency. It’s just a mess.” While v5 is still in its early releases including some beta releases, we’re proud of its stability. I manage all bug reports for the product and I’m not aware of any complaints like this. Long complex posts can be tricky, but the same is true when using Microsoft Word, or Google Docs. “offers many embeds — unfortunately without proper opt-in solutions” We are a US based company, and many different regions have their own laws and regulations. We offer a comprehensive tool set but you as the site owner are responsible for compliance in your country and you should always evaluate the feature set you’re using to ensure it does comply. Embeds can be easily turned off in the AdminCP if that was a concern. We also use a lot of cookie-less domains for common embeds. “You’re forced to renew the license annually; otherwise, the software’s spam protection stops working” Spam protection is a feature for our Invision Community Classic product which does require you to pay for the service, unfortunately. “The Invision Suite was an amazing piece of technology — about four years ago. The software had a unique dynamic and community flow that no other platform could match. It was genuinely fun to work with.” Change can be difficult to accept. We want your community to succeed and sometimes that means gently nudging customers to embrace change and the opportunities it brings. Technology marches on and we have to keep moving forward. There’s no point being stuck in the past with an outdated UI and an aging feature set that no longer engages modern audiences. “I don’t believe anything will improve with Invision, so we’re switching to XenForo.” Best of luck. But perhaps research any new platform carefully including their feedback forums to ensure that you do not regret migrating. Regards, Matt




