i thought its a better service provider but its the worst provider ever because he gives only 3to 4 signals on fx room not daily and the next thing is every signal is gonna hit stop loss and weekly performence is -2.5 ,-3 % can you imagine and he is only focusing on free channel only not in the vip and he is posting like stright 7 wins in a row but it happens only on free telegram channel only better stick with his free telegram channel
And I have a proof email me again you'll get a proof
Response from Forex Robot NationMar 17, 2024
I have no order from the email provided.
I emailed you asking for details on your order, but you did not respond.
Still no email response from Charlie.
Proof that you have not used our service:
https://imgur.com/1tKB2Em
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TofuPC
The signals are absolutely crap
The signals are absolutely crap. Let's talk about the VIP Forex signals.
I've been in their channel for over more than 8 months, their signals are not profitable at all. You can see his results in profit, but considering taking 50% at TP1, 50% at TP2, it makes it unprofitable at all. You barely earn 1% per month. What if you miss a few signals per month? Spreads? You'll earn nothing and take losses.
Gold signals are just disaster. Joined for 3 months, wide SL, bad win rate.
Pat is constantly sharing his videos earnings thousands a week but the signals he shares are useless
Replying to the comment: 2024/02/06
Few Pat's videos have mentioned that securing profit by taking closing half at TP1 and leave the remaining for TP2. How is that profitable? Well, let's be fair, signals and instructions are good and clear (like when to move SL to BE), but the results are not profitable.
Response from Forex Robot NationFeb 5, 2024
Thanks for reaching out.
We are not using the signals in the way you claim, and have recommendations on how to use the signals properly in the members area.
Both are rooms are performing well, and growing in popularity due to our successes.
Please revisit the members area, and see our recommendations.
Update: Pat makes videos every single week about a multitude of strategies. Very little information stated in these videos is about the VIP trading room. Please do not conflate the two.
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Sanatty H.
Not sure what's happening here
Not sure what's happening here. So I had an unauthorized access on my paypal account where someone who had open access to my phone (we both trade) used my credentials to subscribe for a 1 month forex signals package. Long and short of that is that I put a password on my phone and changed my paypal password for greater security. The signals group was also joined from my device. Upon becoming aware of the transaction I exited the group to prevent signals from being sent as I intended to ask for a refund. I communicated with the forexrobotnation team via email on the same day and got no response.
Anyway I decided that it was already paid for and since they were not responding to me, might as well utilize the service until the subscription ended. I tried to gain access to the group and it said that the group link was expired. I again reached out to ask for the link and still no response via the email address that is in the bot.
So as of now, 4 days later, a service was paid for, albeit unauthorized, and no communication is being made to determine if a refund will be given or access will be granted to the service paid for.
I am a part of the free signals group and the signals are good so I have no doubt that the team does well with the paid signals, however communication need to improve drastically.
Update:
It seem there were some miscommunication as though I emailed the support address they provided, my emails were not received. Pat reached out to me after seeing this review and promptly worked with me to resolve the issue (issue a refund). I must say that he was very understanding and customer-centric and communication was smooth. I have since updated this rating to a 4 star because of that experience. I did not use the trading signals so I cannot comment on that.
Response from Forex Robot NationJan 26, 2024
Sanatty, I have 0 emails from you.
I've also personally tried to email you to get you your access.
Check your junk mail, and please email us.
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Keven Van A.
Horrible signals
Horrible signals, easy to follow but they're just losing signals, if you want to lose your money join this channel. At best you'll get 1% gain on a winning signal but since the beginning of January to today every signal have been a loss. 10+ signals have been giving in the past two trading weeks and all resulted in a loss. Even with good risk management on my 100k account, I have been just losing money. Terrible winrate and very low RR.
Update: they gave me a refund in hopes that I would remove my review but it is an honest review from my experience. I have lost $3000 in the time I've been with them. Explore your options
Response from Forex Robot NationJan 17, 2024
Keven was a client for just 2 weeks. We then provided the refund.
Before his two weeks we had a hot streak where we won 7 trades in a row.
Since Keven has left, we have already recovered losses that we incurred during his two weeks. Thus, if Keven stayed for his full subscription month, he would be up.
Trading has ups and downs.
All our long-term members are happy with our services, and understand that we grow accounts over time.
I recommend that you don't start trading live with large lot sizes in your first week. Ease into it, get a feeling for how you want to manage the signals and you will do great. We have guides / recommendations in the members area telling clients exactly this.
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Daniel D.
GOLD SIGNAL CHANNEL IS A COMPLETE MESS
I wish I could post screenshots here so I could put out all the proofs of how horrible the gold signal group has been. December was probably the worst month ever. Back to back stop losses, Pat didn't even post the weekly and monthly trading result anymore on the second half of December because he KNOWS the channel lost so many trades.
The last straw was yesterday (2 Jan 2024), the channel gave a buy stop signal, got activated, and a few minutes later a sell signal was given out WHEN THE BUY IS STILL RUNNING. The buy ended up hitting stop loss while the sell hits BE. Horrible trades overall which made zero sense.
Then today the gold channel gives out an analysis for EURJPY for whatever reason. Does Pat even manage the signal channels? How did this become such a mess? I implore all of you to keep your 50 bucks and run as far as you can. If you somehow got enticed into purchasing any of the signals recently, demand a refund immediately, and if Pat refuses, do a chargeback if you can. This level of quality is in no way acceptable for $50 a month.
UPDATE: They emailed me offering a refund in exchange of me deleting this review, which was a complete joke. I'll take the refund which is what's rightfully mine AND keep this review up so you can't scam anymore people. Let me add that tonight (5th Jan 2024) the channel gives out a signal 9 minutes BEFORE NEWS, which was pure gambling in my opinion. I didn't took the trade, it ended up going in the trade's favor but I will never count this as a win. There's absolutely no way this kind of sloppy performance should be allowed in the forex world, MUCH LESS BY AN ENTITY SELLING SIGNAL SERVICES.
UPDATE 2: Responding to the reply below, it's not mainly the matter of having a bad month. It's the extremely basic mistake like saying "potential upward movement" while giving a sell signal, as well as the shenanigan last week of giving a buy and sell signal AT THE SAME TIME, that reflects extremely poorly on your quality as a signal provider, it's simply unprofessional.
Update 3: If any of you reading this scroll a bit below you'll notice two 5-star reviews saying exactly the same thing. I trust you understand what this means; this scam of a company is making artificial reviews to desperately keep their rating above 4. RUN AWAY PEOPLE
Response from Forex Robot NationJan 6, 2024
HI Daniel,
This was the only losing month we've had in the gold trading room. Historically, we struggle in December, as we prefer trading with volume. This one month, is not an accurate picture of the past or future of the gold room.
The gold room has had 3/4 months winning over 10%, and losing just 1.5% in the only losing month, which you happened to be with us for.
We refunded you, and did hope that you would delete review given that this was a small sample size. But you are entitled to your opinion.
In terms of results, they are always available on our website.
I wish you nothing but the best, and hope you find a service that better suits your trading style and goals in the markets.
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FX U.
They lie about % results, it is not profitable. Demanding a refund.
I bought the lifetime FX service about half a year ago and I'm very disappointed with the results.
I was drawn in with the presented gains per month on their website, but now I realise they lie about the actual results. Let me explain:
All signals are being put in automatically (this works great btw). They give a TP1 and TP2. Every trade the risk is 1%. So if the SL is hit, the result is -1%. When TP1 is hit, they claim a 1% gain. This is techninally possible if the SL is now moved to TP1 or if full profit is taken at TP1. However, this is not done. SL will be moved to BE (logically) so in the scenario where after reaching TP1 the SL (at BE) is hit, they claim a 1% gain. However as only half of the position is closed at TP1 it results in an actual 0.5% gain.
The same happens when TP2 is reached. At TP1, one position will be closed, resulting in 0.5% realized gain. Consequently if TP2 is hit the second position will close for 1% gain, resulting in a 0.5+1=1,5% actual realized gain. They will claim 2% in this case.
Of course there are different strategies that can be taken, for instance taking full profit when either TP 1 or 2 is reached. But my point is that there is no strategy in which their posted results are actually true. I have not been profitable using only their service after 6 months and therefore demand a refund.
Please avoid, and join signal services which post their actual trades so you can verify before you buy!
I will update with info how they respond to this review (if they try to take it down, do nothing or take actual responsibility)
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Ash
I didn't want to write this review…
I didn't want to write this review however I feel I have been patient enough.. this might be my last month with pat!!
First the TP 1 and TP 2 manipulation stated on reviews before this has not been addressed and is impossible to match pats results
The results that are show on the website from last year must of been from a different analysis because sometimes it's not even a 50% win rate
The gold group is just poor.... shockingly poor I understand that gold is a choppy commodity but there is 2 trades a week max and you will be lucky if it hits TP1
Overall there needs to be major changes or it will just be the same as every other scam forex group
I had high hopes for pat but he may just be the same as the rest
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Daniel
Full 3 month trial, completely honest review.
**UPDATED FULL RESULTS**
Trading on a 25k demo account. Started off with using tp1 and tp2 risking 0.5% each. Then moved towards only tp1 risking 1%. There were also 2 trades in the Oct-Nov range where I was risking 1% for tp1 and tp2 which resulted in bigger losses.
September 6-Oct 6= +808.64
Oct6-Nov6= -917.69
Nov6-Dec7= +104.91
3 month total= -4.14$ (not including 55/month for 3 months)
Overall I really like the service and the trade copier. Unfortunately the win rate and risk management is and should be a huge concern if you decide to subscribe. I am keeping it at 3 stars mainly because of the copier and customer service is really good. Not a fan of the low winning percentage, as well as reporting some weeks as positive but in reality were not.
I will be updating this after my 3 months of trying the VIP room, but for now I need to warn others. This room is not a scam, but very misleading. I use the trade copier which is a really awesome feature! The results are nothing great as of now. September 6- october 6 ended +800$ on a 25k account risking 0.5% for tp1 and 0.5% for tp2. Currently in month 2 we are down nearly that amount. The room has lost quite a few trades in a row now, if you are thinking of trying the service you should wait. But don’t expect 80-90% win rate, no where close to that.
WILL UPDATE ON DECEMBER 6