I want to give a HUGE shoutout to my coach Chase and the entire team over at Clients and Community! I joined this program after viewing their info over a year or so and am glad I did. I already had an established group however, I was completely stuck on a strategy to grow it and monetize it consistently.
Between the help of Chase and the curriculum as well. I was able to solve all of my immediate roadblocks and I thoroughly believe it will help me avoid some of the future ones I didn't even know about yet.
Once again thank you everyone and I am excited to see what the future holds!
TC
tonymorrisonsoftware.com
Great Experience with Prominence!
Before I started in the Clients and Community Prominence Program, I had started a FB group and struggled to get people into the group using organic methods. I knew this the way I wanted to build my group and was pumping content all by myself and trying all the methods you hear about in other organic programs.
When I saw the ad for their book, it interested me an I ordered it. When I read it in less than two days I knew it had all the missing parts I needed.
I joined Prominence within a few days. My Coach Brian was awesome as were the the other coaches I interacted with. They had a section where they talked about getting members into the group organically which I started doing.
Since the real focus was on paid ads to attract members, I was a bit apprehensive as I spent a lot of time in FB ad jail previously. But when I started using their methods I went from under 75 members to currently over 700 members in a short amount of time, rapidly feeding my pipeline!
All the coaches have been super helpful, from mindset to copywriting to FB ads. The support staff has been incredible as well. Brian, Samantha, Tim, Brady, Joe and Stephanie have been amazing!
I am looking forward to taking my business to $100K monthly with their Scale program. My confidence is through the roof and have moved from hardly any motion to daily getting many new members and having a full pipeline knowing they can help me accomplish my goals!
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Joe K.
DO NOT SPEND MONEY ON THEIR PROMINENCE PROGRAM!!! IT'S AN ABSOLUTE WASTE OF MONEY AND TIME!!!
I'm conflicted about this review because I genuinely think highly of Landon, Chris and Jaden. I believe they are men of quality character and genuinely mean well and do some incredibly heart warming things for many people. However, my experience of their program, at $9,000, was definitely not worth that price tag. Not even close. I'd have paid no more than $3,000 for what I got had I known what I know now...
I started out at the beginning of 2023 with the Prominence Program after spending several months curious about the Clients & Community ads I was seeing on Facebook and even ordering their $5 book twice without realizing it during that time.
The first time I was on one of their sales calls with Brady (their top sales guy) in 2022, he was actually kind of rude to me, even though I'm pretty sure it was a sales tactic given this guy is VERY intentional about his sales calls. Fast forward to the beginning of 2023 and I was invited onto another call with him, no doubt because they were aware of the high statistical probability of my purchasing the program due to my purchasing 2 eBooks from them. Only this time Brady was super gentle with me and courted me the entire way through the call to close at $3,000 more than the rate they were charging during my first call. I figured no big deal. It is what it is. I genuinely want to see what these guys have to offer. Seems like a pretty solid model. Trustpilot reviews, fantastic testimonials, strong guarantee, very clear and concise eBook. Surely they got value to offer.
When I started their Prominence program, I was excited and being a man who does everything to throw himself fully into his commitments, I truly did everything I was capable of with regard to the guarantee requirements in the time I had available outside all the work I do in a given week that consumes most of my time. When I was on my sales call with Brady, he assured me that the program takes about 5 to 7 hours a week and that it's a model that I can make work with only a 3-month coaching offer, no super low entry product or service like a $.99 cent eBook or $50 intro course. And those two things sold me. I knew that I would not be able to make it work if I had to invest a day or more per week into this or build a new product/service. Those were just not options for me in my situation. And since Brady was confident (he's a very smooth salesman...super smooth), I figured I just need to apply myself. And apply myself I did.
And then it all started to unravel...
About halfway through the 90 days, I began to see very clearly that there was no chance in hell I would be able to get everything done in 5 to 7 hours. I think that this estimate was born from observing the operations of someone who has already successfully set everything up and just has to make sure it's all running as intended. So, I brought this up and was very pleased to find that my coach took this seriously and brought it to their team. And I was also pleased to hear that they'd made changes to how they sell the program...but now I was in a program I was sold on under false pretenses. So, I was stuck attempting to make it work despite the fact that it just didn't fit my situation.
What's more, I tried repeatedly to apply this model to a 3-month coaching offer and it honestly isn't designed for that, at least not for someone who is just starting out with building from their model. I think, for someone who already has an audience that has purchased many small products from you or you are simply already have a strong following, only having a 3-month coaching offer would probably work fine. However, anyone who knows anything about marketing (think Seth Godin, Russell Brunson or Dan Kennedy) will tell you that you have to build trust with people through free and low cost offers to lead to a larger, more warm audience that is primed for larger purchases. So, now I'd come to see that this program was definitely sold to me under false pretenses. But their team, naturally being focused on profits, isn't going to come to me and say, "Hey, we realize we unintentionally sold this program to you under false pretenses, would you like your money back?" What they're going to do is adjust to me the best they are able to help ensure I am satisfied with my experience because if I FEEL taken care of, I'm not going to be angry that I didn't get what I was sold on or ask for my money back.
The trouble with this is that if I'm bought into a program to make it help me succeed in the areas they specialize, making me feel heard and agreeing with me aren't really useful. Being given effective, clear guidance and feedback that leads me to results IS. But if I want that, I have to spend $30k+ for their SCALE program. But given most people in Prominence are not successful and a friend of mine in Prominence also felt frustrated by it, that's not a purchase I'm feeling confident.
Response from Clients & CommunityNov 10, 2023
Thank you for providing your honest feedback and experience in our program. Although our team greatly appreciates positive feedback from satisfied clients, we understand that it is the constructive criticism that truly helps us improve and enhance our services for all clients, both current and future.
Firstly, we apologize if your experience with our sales process and the initial time investment estimates did not meet your expectations. We strive to provide accurate information, and it seems that a particular sales representative on our team may have fell short in this case.
Unfortunately while we wish this was black-and-white, there's certainly a lot of variables involved in giving an estimation of how much time our program will take to apply based on 1)- how technologically savvy you are 2)- whether or not you are utilizing Ai in your workflow like we teach 3)- your time management skills and 4)- whether or not you are starting completely from scratch or already have an existing offer and small following.
While our sales representatives try their best to give an accurate estimation - it is ultimately that - an estimation. The amount of time you have available is an important factor to consider before joining our program or any program. For anyone else reading this, 5-7 hours is certainly possible, but that is on the low end of the time commitment required and naturally will take longer to get results than someone investing 2-hours day (recommended).
Regarding your comments about applying this model to a 3-month coaching offer, this is actually the model we teach and recommend. We call it a Hybrid Coaching Offer.
A Hybrid coaching offer is generally a high ticket offering that is 3-months in length that includes elements of a course and also group coaching. It gives our clients a lot of leverage in their deliverability beyond solely doing 1-on-1. Note: You have access to a course on this called "Offer Incubator".
Moreso, almost all of our clients market their Hybrid Coaching offer without a low ticket front-end offer. That is one of the reasons creating a community around your program can work so well because it is a lead indoctrination mechanism just like a low ticket front-offer, but without the technical burden and hours of creation a low ticket front-end offer requires. In order for a group to be an effective indoctrination mechanism though it requires 1)- an intimate understanding of the wants/needs/desires of your audience 2)- the ability to connect to your audience through your content 3)- group member conversion processes we teach in the program and 4)- consistency. All of which we teach and coach on inside of our program, but if you are starting from scratch, it will take longer than someone who already has momentum.
Note To Reader: In our program you meet with your accountability coach weekly and this is your opportunity to bring up anything that needs clarification or specific adaption to you and your business. In addition, you are able to request time with copywriting experts, Facebook ad experts, etc. Booking time with these experts is as simple as filling out a form, but whether or not they are utilized (and their advice followed), is up to you- the client.
All of this being said, we deeply regret that your experience was not what you anticipated. We are committed to learning from this and improving. As a gesture of our commitment to your success and satisfaction, we're about to release a new software and program called ClientGenie (Facebook automation, funnel builder, CRM, etc.).
We'd love to offer you 12-months free (once it's released end of Nov/early December) if you're still interested in applying our group model to your business at large. You can email me personally jaden AT clientsandcommunity.com to request this and I will give you access once it's released. Regardless of what you decide, we wish you all the best in your future endeavours.
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Darly
Great positive vibes
I joined clients and community recently. I’m quite satisfied with the support I am receiving, especially from my accountability coach Melanie. I also love the culture of the group it’s very positive and motivating.
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Karen H.
Robyn Smiley is the best!
I've had the pleasure of meeting with Robyn in tech support several times now and she is awesome to work with. She's very patient and kind!
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Forrest W.
Thanks to Samantha Belle for her incredible service!
I am sending out for the 2nd time this acknowledgement of Samantha Belle and how supportive she is every time we speak together.
Since I was hacked on Facebook on Christmas Day, I have been reunited with Samantha Belle. She has been very kind, understanding, and excellent in her interactions with me. She is easy to understand, and makes certain I am clear on what to do next. THANK YOU, SAMANTHA. Looking forward to completing the course with you as my guide through it all.
Forrest Ward
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Todd Y.
We had our first tech call with Robyn…
We had our first tech call with Robyn today and she was amazing. Her knowledge, patience, and giving us quite a bit of extra time was much appreciated!
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Andrea O.
I have had an amazing experience so…
I have had an amazing experience so far. I’ve invested in multiple programs to help me scale my 7-figure business to include a high ticket coaching program. This is by far the BEST value that has provided the BIGGEST return so far! And I’ve yet to launch the big thing - but now I have a highly motivated audience of 600+ people in my fb group, and they are chomping at the bit to buy. I’m training my team on the phone sales aspect now so I’m ready to roll in a few weeks. So far I’ve made 16k directly from the group and 30k indirectly, and it’s only been one month! The coaching has also been super helpful. It keeps me on track and accountable, and the trainings themselves have solved my major problems of “where do I find and nurture new leads for my big ticket program?” and “how to I run a fb group that is super-active, engaged, and strategic?” I knew I wanted a sort of “incubator” fb group when I launched this big ticket group coaching program, but I had no idea “what” to do with it or what steps to take. Now I have a super clear routine, processes that prepare and convert, encouragement, and the beginnings of massive success! I’m ready to dive into the second half of the training and stoked for how it will multiply my results! Proven frameworks and a singular focus - that’s what Prominence is for me. 😎