These people will NOT stop spamming me with their emails even after I said there was no way I could cough up 10k for “mentoring.” I said listen, I agreed to this zoom call because I am looking to earn and I am low on cash. I don’t have 10k to give you even if I wanted to. I said, how about this-if you think I really need this training that will make me all this money, how about I give you a percentage of what I make with all this supposed extra income you swear I will be making? Crickets. I asked, “so how does this work? People are teaching “groups” music online? Is it a masterclass setting? Can you give me some idea of the structure or testimonials from STUDENTS? Real students, not people who signed up for this program? They could not give me any kind of example. Everyone on here saying this changed their life-how? What does your day look like? Do you have students contacting you and signing up for group classes? How long are these classes? How are these people learning from you? If you are going to go on and on about this “changing your life” how did that happen? By signing other people up for “coaching?” Or are you actually a music teacher. Please. What’s a day in your life look like? If you can’t give me a concrete example of what you are actually doing every day, how am I supposed to believe this is not a pyramid scheme? And if you are so sure I will make 20k a month, I will gladly give you half that first month a then a percentage every month after that. Going on and on about “investing” in myself? To do what? You aren’t even explaining what I would be doing! Lord.
Response from PaulthetrombonistJul 15, 2026
Hi Marcy,
Thank you for taking the time to share your feedback. While you ultimately decided not to enroll in our program, we're sorry your consultation left you with this impression.
Our program is designed specifically for experienced music educators who want to build and scale premium online teaching businesses. We teach our members how to package their existing musical expertise into online group coaching and educational programs. Our members earn income by teaching music, not by recruiting others into our program.
We understand our program is an investment and that it will not be the right fit for everyone. We also do not guarantee specific income results. Every student's outcome depends on many factors, including their experience, effort, and implementation.
Regarding your concerns about email and text communications, we take those seriously. Every marketing email we send includes an unsubscribe link, and text messages can be stopped at any time by replying STOP. If you continue to experience any issues, please reply to one of our messages and we'll be happy to help resolve them promptly.
We appreciate you sharing your perspective and wish you nothing but success in your music career.
MU
Musician
Rude and Cocky!! Felt Like a Scam
I had a couple of phone calls with these guys. The last guy I spoke with (JS; whom by the way left a positive review here) acted cocky, rude, shady, and kind of like a smart-ass while trying to get $10K from me for this program... Needless to say, I said NO!! No way!! Felt very "scam-ish" to me. And, this guy was trying to coerce $10K out of me. I don't know if he thought he was bullying, or what? No time for that shit!!!
Response from PaulthetrombonistJun 10, 2026
Hi, thank you for sharing your feedback.
I’m genuinely sorry the conversation left you feeling this way. That is not the experience we want anyone to have with our company.
Our program is a significant investment, and we understand that deciding whether to join is a serious decision. Because of that, our enrollment conversations are meant to be honest, thoughtful, and thorough. The goal is to understand someone’s situation, answer questions clearly, determine whether there is a real fit, and make sure each person feels fully informed before making a decision.
At the same time, no one should ever feel pressured, bullied, or uncomfortable during that process. We take that seriously.
We respect that this was not the right fit for you, and we appreciate you taking the time to share your perspective. We’ll review this internally and use it as an opportunity to keep improving the experience people have with our team.
Wishing you the best in your music and business journey.
PA
Pyramid A.
I chose not to participate in this program.
All I can advise is watch out. As someone who has created a successful career in various aspects of the music industry, there is no way in the world that I would ever encourage anyone who teaches music to perhaps become rich through their coaching at the cost of over $10,000.
The advertising suggests that a music teacher can reach a 6 or even 7 figure income by teaching music and gain students who participate in group sessions at the students cost of over $4000? I am sure they must have small print disclaimers somewhere in order to avoid hearing from the FTC.
As part of their advertising to further lure you in to a Zoom meeting, they might share some first names of participants who have significantly increased their net-worth by enrolling themselves as music educators in this unique program.
The marketing strategy is called "Mastermind". You can look it up. It is utilized by several online educational marketing companies similar to this one. Rather than spell it out "School", They spell it "Skool" or something similar.
Perhaps there have been a few verifiable successes, but it is difficult to make a fair assessment with the information they provide and what I was able to learn on my own. During the zoom meeting, they only provide first names of people supposedly in the program who they tell you are making a lot of money, no contact phone numbers or emails as they do not divulge such information. (must be very secret I guess). Only first names? Really now. Heck, if their enrolled music teachers are making so much money, have such an amazing reputation though the success of students who spend thousands of dollars to participate in their group sessions, you'd think the instructor's names would be all over the Internet and there would be a line of students looking to accomplish their hopes of greatly improving their musicianship and skill by spending over 4K to join these group sessions.
I can not of course tell you what to do with your money. All I can do is provide advice that might save you some.
Oh, I almost forgot to mention that on the last Zoom meeting I had with a Paul the Trombonist recruiter which was a disaster, the guy thought that he had disconnected at the end of the call but he didn't and he talked to I guess his recruitment coach who unbeknown to me, was listening in and said some things regarding "folks like him" (meaning me), who (for darn good reasons), share similar skepticism. I had rightfully asked the recruiter if he was on a commission basis and he said that "Paul takes good care of me". The guy was obviously on commission and the woman he continued talking to after he thought we disconnected was providing him advice as to handling recruitment calls and said some negative things about "our types". Really now!. I heard it all! Shame on them.
Instead of spending over 10 grand of your hard earned cash with this program, (I would use another descriptive word but won't), invest a whole lot less by investing in yourself through your own internet marketing, advertising and branding.
If you are indeed a true educator and sincerely committed to making a difference in the lives of others through the transfer of knowledge and experience, then you are not doing it to become rich. A decent living? Sure. But a millionaire or close to it?
There are several entrepreneurs who take advantage of people's desire to learn, succeed and generate great wealth through their magical formula and you can't blame them. Perhaps they themselves are gaining significant wealth by doing so and if it works, and their client base agrees, then more power to them. I am as you should be, very skeptical. Your money in my opinion, is better spent on something else. Take care and go ahead and make some music!
Additional info.. Just added.
I signed up for another Zoom call by a guy who claimed to have the founder of Senora Guitar enroll in his online coaching class and that's is how Senora Guitar started, from one of these "Mastermind" courses. He stated that Senora Guitars is a 6M/ yr business and touted his own music instructor course as the key to their success.
These online coaching courses are crawling out of the woodwork all with the identical game plan and price tag. Like they all graduated the same class on the same day and went out to employ what they learned. What a racket! STAY AWAY You do not need to enroll in any of these "Skools" to become an accomplished musician! Truly!
Response from PaulthetrombonistSep 1, 2025
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. While we respect everyone’s right to form opinions, we do want to clarify for readers that you were never a student in our program, nor did you go through the training we offer.
We work with music educators who are looking to build scalable and profitable online coaching businesses—not by “getting rich quick,” but by applying proven business principles that have been working across industries for decades.
The pricing structure reflects the level of coaching, systems, and support we provide. It’s not for everyone. But for those who want to stop trading time for dollars, reach more students online, and charge what they’re truly worth, it’s a game-changer. Many of our members are now full-time business owners, supporting their families through music in a way they never thought possible.
We use enrollment periods, program caps, and premium positioning to help our members create demand and attract high-quality students. The “Mastermind” model you mentioned isn’t a gimmick — it’s a well-established framework used by educators, consultants, and leaders in every field.
Regarding your experience on a Zoom call, we sincerely apologize if anything came across the wrong way. Our team is passionate about helping people, and we’re always working to improve how we communicate with potential members. We appreciate the feedback and have already addressed it internally.
At the end of the day, our community is made up of real music educators who have made real transformations. We’ll continue focusing on helping them succeed.
We wish you the best in your journey and hope you continue making great music.
— The Passion Builders Team
MA
Martino
Paul the Trombonist was not a good mentor worth 5-figures
I was a student of Paul in his program called Passion Builders for many years. I was impressed by his expertise and the organization of the program. Although it never made me any money, it helped me clarify many doubts I had.
A few years later, I joined his 1-year inner circle mastermind called “ Platinum" with four other fellow students. Unfortunately, Platinum turned out to be the worst five-figure investment I have ever made in my life.
The program lacked structure, and the initial goals set by the students at the beginning of the program were unattainable and not evaluated by Paul.
While I did learn a lot from sharing my journey with the other students, Paul's Platinum put me in a near-broke financial situation and did not get me any good results.
Considering my experience, I would strongly advise extreme caution if you're considering joining any program offered by Paul, as he did not prove to be a trustworthy mentor.