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Deceitful, rude and time-wasting - AVOID
I run a small charity that has been using CardSave for a few years. In recent months I have found them deceitful, rude and unhelpful, and potentially fraudulent. On 19 September, when my card machine wouldn’t process items from a charity auction the night before, I rang CardSave to ask for assistance. I was told firstly that my merchant number had to start with a 3 and that the merchant number I was providing had to be incorrect. After getting off the phone, I rang back and was told that my merchant number was fine. I was asked to put my supervisor card through but I didn’t have one. About a week later, and spending more than £5 on the supervisor card, I received my supervisor card and I rang back. I went through the various checks that were requested, none of which worked. I tried the card machine at home and at the old office, as well as at the new office, and it never worked. I was asked to find an Ethernet cable, and I did, and I called back and did the checks and it didn’t work. I also requested that our system be changed from a card terminal to an online service and was told that this was fine, but that it would take about six weeks for the system to be up and running for us. After waiting nearly six weeks and hearing nothing, I called back on 13 November 2013 and was firstly told that there was no record of my ordering an online system. I asked to cancel my account as I was disappointed about the total lack of records kept. I was then told by another “Customer Services Advisor” Adam, that there was a record of this being referred to sales, but that someone from sales should have contacted me (which they hadn’t) and that it would take some time to follow up on what had gone wrong. I pointed out that I have been paying for a card machine that has not worked for this organisation since sometime in early September, and that as a charity this was a big problem. I requested repayment of the last two months of the card machine due to it not working throughout this time. [Name] then told me that there was no record of my machine not working since 4 October, when I was supposed to call back with the Ethernet cable. I had called back, and I did the tests with the Ethernet cable, which still didn’t work. However, according to [Name], I need to prove this to CardSave, even though there is no record of any transactions being processed on our machine since before this time. I can provide numerous emails that I’ve had to send out to our supporters to get them to send cheques instead of their card details due to the card machine not working, but [Name] refused to believe that I was telling the truth, and insisted that I prove that I called up again. As we use a free VOIP phone from one of our supporters, we do not receive call lists or bills, so I cannot prove that the phone calls were made. However, I would think that a customer ringing up and stating that the machine hasn’t worked for two months should be taken very seriously and not called into question by a rather rude Customer Services Advisor. I said that I was not at all happy with a service that promises me one thing but then fails to deliver it, not a service that charges me for something I am not receiving. He said that it would cost me £252 to cancel my account, or £144 to let the account run out in May. I pointed out that this is a charity, and that Card Save is expecting to receive money for a service it is not providing, and is then going to charge extra fees on top of the remaining contractual terms if I want to pull out early due to unacceptable levels of service and non-delivery of their end of the deal. I noted that at no time was a replacement card machine or a person to come out and fix our system offered, yet for some reason I am expected to pay for something I am not receiving. I said that I could not understand how CardSave can operate a business in this way. I requested the following: - Repayment of any charges made to the charity by Card Save since 19 September 2013, the first date I rang about the problems; - Cancellation of my account without further charges or penalties, in light of the total failure of Card Save to provide a functioning system; - A complaint to be raised in light of the failure of Card Save to order our replacement terminal, and the totally inadequate response I received from [Name] specifically today. Shortly after this, on or around 14 November, I received a call from someone at CardSave stating that they would send someone out to the office the very next day to fix the card machine. Almost immediately after this conversation, on the same day, I received a call from someone purporting to be [Name], who said he was a Team Leader with CardSave. He was extremely apologetic about my experiences and said that he would fix everything, but that the person would not be coming to fix the machine as it was not that kind of machine (or some such explanation). [Name] said that he was emailing the CEO asking for the last two months, as well as the next three months (which had just been taken out of our account), to be repaid to us. He also said we could transfer onto the virtual terminal without penalty, and that he would match another quote we had received for a virtual terminal for £10 per month including 100 transactions. I didn’t hear back from him so I rang his number, left messages, and eventually caught him on his mobile number. He said he was on leave, and that he was surprised that this hadn’t been dealt with in his absence. He said that the CEO had agreed to all his requests, and he said he would send me the paperwork that day. A day or two later, on 19 November I received the paperwork from him, but with no confirmation of our discussion. As I was concerned about previous statements made by CardSave staff that were later denied by other staff, I sent an email on 20 November 2013, including the following request: “Can you please send me a few sentences outlining what we have agreed over the telephone - ie, that this contract will replace the existing arrangements that we have with the card terminal (rather than be in addition to them) and that we will be refunded for the cost of the terminal since 19 September (5 months, including the payment on 19 November for the next three months). Given that my recent conversation with Customer Service Adviser [Name] included his comments that I couldn't prove that I'd had a certain conversation with CardSave, I'm reluctant to progress with a new contract in the absence of something in writing.” No reply was received. The next day, I also realised that there was an error in the draft contract, so I sent another email noting that the paperwork did not match the quote. No reply was received. On 28 November, I sent a follow up email asking if he had received them. No response was received. I rang [Name]’s phone number and left messages, but never got through on either his mobile or work number. In mid December, I received a phone call from another person telling me that [Name] had asked them to call to ask why I hadn’t returned the contract. I said that my queries from 20-21 November had not yet been answered. The person I spoke to appeared to refer to my emails and said a reply would be forthcoming. Today, I rang [Name]’s mobile number and he answered the phone. He sounded like a completely different person to the person I had spoken to the first time. He said that he was sending off an email now to the CEO asking for those things that I had requested. I reminded him that he had already told me some weeks / months ago that this request had been approved and that this had already been done. He denied that this had ever been approved. I repeated that he most definitely had said that it had been approved, as we would not be entering into a new contract with CardSave without the refunded money or confirmation of transfer. He then placed me on hold for approximately 10 minutes, then came back to say that those requests had been denied. When I asked him why he had not responded to the emails I sent on 20 November, 21 November and 28 November, he said that it was because he hadn’t received the response from the CEO yet. I asked him why, if he hadn’t received the confirmation, he didn’t respond to state that the CEO had not approved the agreed refunds, as [Name] had previously told me. He could not answer this question. He then told me that CardSave has evidence that my machine had been working in October, which it most definitely had not. I told him that the only time we had used the card machine with any success in October was when the machine told us to ring the international approval line, which we did, and the machine printed out confirmation receipts. However, that money did not appear in our accounts and we had to chase AIGBMS and send the scanned machine receipts to them for them to process. No purchases have been rung up at all since prior to 19 September 2013, and any evidence to the contrary must be either faked or non-existent. I have repeatedly had this problem with CardSave where I am told that I only rang twice and that my machine ended up working, whereas in fact I spent many hours on the phone to the help desk, tried everything, and still didn’t have things working. As we are a busy charity I couldn’t continue to spend every day on this problem, but the machine never worked and I certainly never gave CardSave any impression that it was working. According to CardSave, the machine was fine from 4 October. However, even if this were true (which it is not), I have been in regular contact with CardSave, including in writing, between 19 September and 4 October and since 13 November to the present day, which would only affect a maximum of one month 9 days, and have made it extremely clear that the machine is not and has not worked since 19 September. Steven said that CardSave had already refunded me two months rental. I pointed out that it is now January, and we still don’t have a functioning card machine. He merely repeated himself, parrot-like, ‘like I said, the Help Desk said, the Help Desk has approved….’ even though I have repeatedly and emphatically set out the truth of the matter to CardSave in my emails and throughout the many long and frustrating calls I have had to spend talking with CardSave staff. I expressed significant concern that [Name] had made so many definite and confirmed commitments on the phone, and had sent me the contract to fill out without confirming them in writing. If I had trusted what he had initially promised, I would have signed up for a new contract with CardSave without any of the refunds or conditions that had been agreed. I noted that this was fraudulent and that I felt that I was being conned and scammed in this situation. I have wasted an inordinate amount of time on this issue and am truly disgusted with the lies and the attitude I have received from CardSave.


