Jeff
The Wing Girl Method Has Good Educational Content, But My Included Wing Girl Session Was Never Provided
UPDATE — SEPTEMBER 2026 I am updating this review to add documentation that clarifies my experience. My original assessment remains: I believe the F-Formula contains genuinely useful material. My concern is the one-on-one Wing Girl session advertised as part of my purchase. On August 21, 2025, Jess from The Wing Girl Method confirmed in writing: “When you purchased the F-Formula, it included one private session with our team. That’s already yours at no extra cost, and you can use it anytime—there’s no expiration.” She also said a separate $297 coaching offer was “completely separate” and “doesn’t affect the session included with your purchase.” After I clarified that I meant the advertised session with a Wing Girl, Jess wrote: “We can definitely set you up with one of our Wing Girls for your one-on-one session.” My actual experience was different. I first spoke with Cole, a man rather than one of Marni’s Wing Girls. In my experience, that call functioned as screening/assessment for additional coaching rather than the promised Wing Girl session. I later spoke with Liz Fleming. Liz told me she was not a Wing Girl. When I asked whether this was my promised Wing Girl session, she confirmed it was not and that the call was another assessment relating to the coaching program. On February 27, 2026, after I again requested my included session, Jess wrote: “I can definitely help you get that session on the books,” and asked for my availability. The next day, however, Jess wrote that because I had said I wasn’t in a position to “invest in our coaching programs,” and because the one-on-one sessions were “specifically designed for those looking to move forward with our coaching plans,” she was “unable to move forward with scheduling this call.” That is the central reason for my review. I had been told the session was mine, at no extra cost, with no expiration; separate paid coaching did not affect it; and WGM could set me up with a Wing Girl. I was later told it could not be scheduled because I was not in a position to invest in coaching. I repeatedly asked WGM either to provide the included Wing Girl session or refund my purchase price. After multiple unanswered follow-ups, I filed a California Small Claims action. After WGM was served, it refunded my full $76.99 purchase price. I then voluntarily dismissed the case. There was no trial or judgment on the merits. Afterward, I attended a Marni Kinrys Cocktail Hour presentation, which I thought was excellent. F-Formula 3.0 was introduced. Marni said purchasers would get a free implementation call with her or one of her Wing Girls to “map out exactly how to apply this to your specific situation and help you accelerate your results.” She later described F-Formula 3.0, other included materials/support, “and the call all together for $47.” I have NOT purchased F-Formula 3.0, so I am not claiming WGM failed to provide that current call to me. My transaction involved the earlier F-Formula. Hearing a similar Wing Girl-call benefit advertised again concerned me because of my experience. During the Cocktail Hour Q&A, I submitted three questions that were not addressed. I described my experience in the event chat. Jess publicly said she would follow up with me by email. I did not receive that follow-up, although I continued receiving WGM marketing emails. I still believe the F-Formula educational material has value. But if an included Wing Girl/implementation call matters to your purchase, I recommend asking in writing who will conduct it, whether any additional purchase is required, and whether willingness or ability to buy additional coaching is a condition of receiving it. Readers can draw their own conclusions. If a service is advertised and confirmed as included at no additional cost, I believe it should be provided on those terms—or additional conditions should be disclosed before purchase.
Response from WinggirlmethodAug 13, 2026
Thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed review, and also for acknowledging the value you found in both the F-Formula and the Cocktail Hour presentation. I genuinely appreciate that. I do want to clarify a few things because I think there has been some confusion around what our complimentary strategy session is and what was included with your original purchase. Our records do not show that you were promised a private 20-minute coaching session with one of our Wing Girls prior to purchasing the F-Formula. The complimentary session we offer F-Formula customers is a strategy session with a member of our team. Its purpose is to learn more about you, identify where you're struggling, and determine whether additional coaching with our team would be beneficial. Sometimes the conclusion of that conversation is that a man already has what he needs and should continue working with the material he purchased. Other times, we believe one of our coaching programs could help him significantly, and we explain those options. There is NEVER an obligation to purchase additional coaching. That said, I can also understand your confusion based on the emails you received AFTER your purchase. If a member of our team subsequently referred to this as a "one-on-one session with one of our Wing Girls," when what was actually being offered was a strategy session with our team, then the wording was not clear enough. That's something I will absolutely address internally because I don't want our customers confused about what they're receiving. I also want to look into what happened with your refund request. You state that you requested either the session or a refund multiple times and ultimately received the refund after filing your small-claims action. I don't have the complete history of those conversations in front of me, so I'm not going to speculate about why your earlier refund requests were handled the way they were. I AM forwarding this to my team so I can better understand what happened and whether something should have been handled differently. I'm also sorry that Jess said she would follow up with you after Cocktail Hour and you didn't receive that follow-up. If someone on my team says they're going to follow up, I expect that follow-up to happen. Ultimately, I'm glad your purchase was fully refunded and that the legal matter was resolved. I'm also genuinely happy to hear that despite this experience, you found real value in the F-Formula and in the material I taught at Cocktail Hour. I take the feedback seriously. We will be reviewing the language we use around our complimentary strategy sessions so that customers clearly understand what the session is, who it may be with, and its purpose. Thank you again for sharing your experience. Marni