I never ever signed up for this product/service and I am being billed.
Response from Traffic and FunnelsAug 31, 2020
I apologize for any confusion. This was for your yearly subscription renewal. I have issued a full refund since you are no longer interested.
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Geoff C.
Scammy marketing
This guy is supposed to be an expert in email marketing.
After giving him my email I was bombarded with marketing spam with no option to unsubscribe. This is regarded as unethical in the trade, and is flat-out illegal in the US where I assume he is based.
I emailed asking him to unsubscribe me, and to his credit he replied. But he gave a totally fatuous excuse for the lack of an unsubscribe link.
So he's either ignorant of the law, or he chooses to ignore it. Do you really want to learn email marketing from someone whose own marketing is unethical?
JM
John M.
My experience with T&F: Dont buy
My experience with T&F:
Stay away from them if you want to join a business that has a good moral compass.
*first*
Their online free content is decent. Then, if you get sucked in, you will be pushed hard to buy.
*second*
I purchased an online course last year - it was a 1-hour classroom recording for $50. Some information was good, and some was outdated, I did not ask for a refund as I don't think that is fair, but the course was outdated and left a bitter taste in my mouth.
*third*
I had a sales call from one of their reps. I told him I didnt want to buy and wanted to know more about their services, he laughed and told me why would I buy from them when they haven't offered me any value. He then spent an hour asking me questions, he did not give me any insight or value back, just asked me questions. Then, at the end of the call he asked me for a few thousand euro to sign up and he could 'fix my problem'. Very cheeky sales methods.
*fourth*
I have been charged money by traffic & funnels without my authorisation.
I contacted support to ask for a refund and I was told to tell them to check my account and to cancel any subscription, 6 months previously. I stated this in my new email and it has not been sorted - the 'customer support' is deflecting my questions. Funnely enough, I sent this email 6 months previously because I could see they have bad methods to hold onto peoples money.
Their subscriptions are set up in sneaky ways to try hold onto your money. Hidden buttons, no cancellation - must email in... no response from support when asking to cancel...
It's a digital marketing business that happens to have a bad process for cancellations... strange..
I was excited when I first found this business, but I have now seen too many cracks and I want the money back you essentially stole from me. Disappointing end.
Response from Traffic and FunnelsJul 30, 2020
Hey John
I'm incredibly sorry we missed your recent email. I did issue a full refund for you.
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Ben C.
Don't Take ClientKit! There Are Better & Cheaper Programs To Go Through.
I've thought long and hard about this review and I am not taking this lightly. I almost never leave reviews for things online. I can only speak about my experience and no one else's. I know there are way more positive reviews for this course then negative ones, but that being said I feel like I wasted $10,000 on this course.
After I ordered their free book, which by the way...sucks. It was like 20 pages and was just one giant humble brag about how good of sales people they are. I understand it was a free book and I wasn't expecting the world, but damn. When you compare it to the free books you get from clickfunnels and other online marketers, the Intelligent Advertiser sucks.
So after that I had a phone call with a salesman named Ben and thinking back about it I felt completely bullied into buying the course. He told me how I should open up a new credit card or take out a loan and was asking me about my personal finances, which I wasn't comfortable sharing with someone I was literally talking to for the first time. He hit all my pain points and really gas lit me into thinking I was a loser for not buying traffic & funnels.
But look, at the end of the day it was my decision to buy into the course, there was no gun to my head, but I really didn't appreciate how aggressive he was.
I used spending the money as a motivating factor and thought it was the kick in the ass I needed. Still though, I told him I just started my business and would love to get to $10k a month. He made it seem like that would be easy, just do what the coaches say and you'll be golden, and I bought it.
Coaching Calls:
The coaching calls were extremely frustrating. There were two calls a week you could hop, but you had to submit your questions before hand and sometimes your question wouldn't even get answered.
I don't want to bash the coaches who did the calls every week, because they were smart and gave me good advice when I actually got to talk to them, but so many times I would have to sit on a 2+ hour video call to get 10 minutes with a coach and I would have way more questions after the call. A few times I even asked questions, but someone previously had asked something similar and the response was, "well I covered that already, go back and watch the recording".
It felt like no one really cared about my business or helping me actually grow. Also, whenever I was given a suggestion, or tried to implement something from the modules and it wasn't working, I would ask why or how do I fix this, and on multiple occasions the response was, "your attitude is bad". Please tell me how an answer like that helps anyone, when they are legit confused about what they are learning???
Modules:
At first they were good. They were about Finding Your audience, creating offers, sales strategies etc. However towards the later modules, they just seem to throw random videos in there that had no purpose. There was one video about integrating your stripe account with your clickfunnels account, and up to that point in the course there was never any mention of using clickfunnels. When I emailed and asked why that seemingly random video was in there, I never got a response. Then when I asked if they could teach me clickfunnels, I was told I wasn't ready yet.
Overall it was very frustrating experience and after going through it, there is no way to justify the incredibly high price tag. I say that, because after being told I wasn't ready to use clickfunnels, I researched it on my own and came across the One Funnel Away Challenge. A 30 Day coaching program by clickfunnels, which is only $100 btw. I learned easily 10x more going through OFA then I did with 10 weeks of Traffic & Funnels. I can't prove it either, but I feel like 90% of the Traffic & Funnels course was taken from clickfunnels courses and programs. The coaches in OFA actually seem to care about helping me learn and it was a much better experience overall.
Most may read this as sour grapes and that's fine. There are probably a million reviews of people who had success, but I haven't been one of them. It was frustrating and I feel like an idiot for paying for the course. It wasn't until after I went through OFA, when my business actually started succeeding.
My advice to anyone considering this course is to find a another coaching program. There are other coaches that can give you much more personalized attention at a much cheaper price tag. You do not need to spend $10k on a coaching program like this.
HL
Hypnoconsult L.
Unreliable Service
After the sales person blew off an appointment with me.
I received some calls from them and decided to give them one more chance. Kyle Livingston went through an hour long presentation with me and wanted me to sign up at that moment. I decided to think over the weekend about it. I requested a call back on Monday. We agreed on a time and I sent a link.
Kyle said he would send me an encrypted link which never arrived. For a nearly $10000 investment they do not even have the courtesy to stay in contact with potential clients. How could I trust them to do what I needed to have done after they had my money? Run do not walk away from this company. When I discussed their failure to get back to me they're only comment was that they were laughing out loud. Classy. Not an example of professionalism or integrity.
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Florin C.
Not a good experience
I just bought a digital book and it says you did not purchased any book. Based also on previous reviews this company is not serious and neither organised. I cannot put also photos here to prove what I say.
Florin
Response from Traffic and FunnelsJul 8, 2020
Thanks for letting us know Florin. We've added the digital book to your members portal along with some extra training and we have issued a refund for you.
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Aleksandra Di G.
A horrible customer service
I bought a course. On the salespage it wasn't clear at all that there are 2 payments of $27, and not one. When I wrote to say I didn't want any subscription (as I interpreted the next payment taken from my account), after just a few days I received an answer. But when I asked for a refund, as their salespage was completely misleading, I stopped getting any answers. It's already been 2 months, I wrote a few messages -still no answer. Additionally, they removed my access to the course I bought, so at the moment I don't have neither the money, nor the content. Very disappointing.
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Edmond A.
Can you give 0 stars?
Can you give 0 stars?
One of the worst online experiences I've ever had... These guys are super unprofessional. I was actually interested in what they had, until the sales rep on the phone become incredibly pushy trying to get my credit card number. Long story short, I put a deposit down with a promise of a 100% refund to think it over for a day. When I reached out the next day to cancel and get my refund because it just didn't feel right after that experience, the rep began to put words in my mouth telling me I promised I'd sign up, then told me the refund wasn't going to fly (even though I have a message from him telling me the deposit is 100% refundable), then began to speak down to me. I'm appalled at how a company like this is still around. Anyway, it's been a week and still no reply and no refund. I had to reach out to my bank to file a dispute... Horrible experience.