RUN. This was a horrible experience and money lost. I was sold based on what the salesperson promised me but what I actually received was such low quality and SO disorganized that I can't believe they are even selling it.
The other members of the little group I was in all began messaging each other about how horrible it was, it was so bad. It was as if we'd all just flushed our money down the drain. Once you give them your money, you will not get it back, despite the fact that they DO NOT GIVE YOU what they promise.
I signed up for help with organic marketing, since that's what they said they were so good at. But...their actual organic help is a joke. One of their methods that they teach for "organic" is to literally go into other company's facebook groups and try to steal their clients! Seriously? As the owner of a prolific fb group (which is why I'd signed up, to improve my organic skills), I found this not just insulting but disturbing.
When I made my complaints, I was ignored...the emails got "lost"...and then when I finally did get through, the guy in charge of the company right now (Jake?) was beyond insulting. I actually felt shock at being treated that way...so condescending and contemptuous. I asked to speak to whoever was above him and he told me that no one was above him. Okay, then... Just wow.
As an owner of multiple thriving businesses, when I make a purchase on something, I expect a certain base level of good treatment as well as good quality. I'm not afraid to work hard (do it all day, every day) and I love to learn. I've worked with a few other coaching companies in building my businesses and have had wonderful experiences, so I was expecting something similar when I signed up with Traffic and Funnels Client Kit program....and what I got from this company was so subpar that I'm taking the time to write a negative review (which isn't something I ever do). If my review can save just one person from this company, it was worth it.
There are SO many groups out there who can provide you with quality service and professional level quality worth the money that you spend. Maybe Traffic and Funnels was once decent, I don't know, but not only would I never recommend them to anybody, but I would add, RUN. Seriously, just run. This was a horrible (horrible) experience and all I've got to show for it is the loss of 7.5k. Don't make my mistake.
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Aiden S.
OCS METHOD FOR YOUTUBE ADVERTISING…
OCS METHOD FOR YOUTUBE ADVERTISING SPECIALISTS TOTAL SCAM
In short, no value-added in the ridiculous upsell of their private coaching. I've listed my points below:
1) In my initial introduction into the program, I had a role-play sales call that was canceled by T&F because one of our connections cut out for a minute, and when asked if we could continue over the phone I was told "no, but you there are other coaches in the group who do that", but the issue is she was the designated "sales role-play coach", both our cameras were off (so no need for zoom), and their program specifically recommends phone sales calls. So???
2) Information is all over the place and extremely poorly structured. I bought a frond-end product for YT advertising and it's structured very much as "this is what to do" not "this is how you do it". Although there is some solid content throughout the course, and definitely worth the front end price I paid, they jam too much content into single videos that last upwards of 40 minutes plus covering a range of topics, so it's extremely difficult to apply the strategies from a step by step or SOP point of view.
For example, one video is talking about setting up 4 separate types of campaigns on a specific advertising platform that takes about 45 minutes to complete. This is waaay too much content in a single video considering you literally have to go back to multiple previous modules to gather "prerequisites" for each individual campaign, and shuffle through multiple other videos that are poorly labeled and just as jammed. So, say you want to just create a single one of those campaigns, well now you have to skip halfway through this 30-minute video to find that specific campaign. Oh well great, now he's skipping most of the essential information since it's repetitive from the first two times he set up the campaigns in the beginning of the video, so now you have to jump back to the begging. See where I'm going? It should be as simple as campaign set up 1.1. Campaign set up 1.2. Campaign set up 2.1, Etc. not to mention as I said, you have to jump back and forth to other modules that require prerequisites for things such as audience research. But, that's another 45 minutes of searching for the proper module because 'audience research' is found in a video titled "free and paid research tools"..... Seriously??
3) The worst part is, I didn't mind this "this is what to do" style because I was TOLD the private coaching was much more "SOP styled" to make productization easy, like what I expressed I wanted. But nope. These scammers will tell you anything to get your money.
4) The value-added in the private coaching? Pretty much near nothing. Like I said, my 1-1 coaching was canceled, and for a 7.5k program a 'phone call' sales role-play instead of 'zoom' should not be an issue. On top of that, it's essentially just coaches preaching about using DM's to land clients, while BARELY touching the surface of prospecting models (literally the extent of saying use IG, use FB groups, use slack). Okay dude, I didn't just give you 7.5k to tell me to use IG and Slack. I want a full walkthrough of you prospecting using each of those channels and for the love of God on their own separate videos.
5) They also offered the worst possible outreach ideas known to man that literally contradict T&F news feed authority tactics. Sorry Mr Coach, but cold emailing "guaranteed clients" as a subject line will result in more spam boxes than inboxes, and DMing a pitch hasn't worked since 2006.
6) Oh and one of my personal favorites and literally the entire reason I joined in the first place was because of an alleged certification program that gave you access to the amazing media buyer job board where, quote, "hundreds" of past clients were looking for you as a certified media buyer.. What a joke. Literally less than 200 people in the group (about 150 people) with about 120-140 of them being in the private coaching looking for jobs... Not biz owners looking for media buyers... They literally use the alleged job board group that's full of "successful T&F clients looking for qualified talent" to openly call out people in their program who don't have clients yet "For all the certified members in here, ask yourself why you don't have a client right now... it's because of your mindset".
7) The worst part is they made it impossible to get a refund as well. When I ordered the front-end product I had a 90 money back guarantee. I was literally told to ask for a refund by the sales guy to repay it for private coaching and I'll get immediate access back so it doesn't make a difference. Well, I did this like a dumb ass without thinking only to realize it then voided my refund....
Total scam of a company IMO who sells coaching programs for 7.5k that appear to be put together in less than 12 hours.
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Mel
Shameless salesperson
Salesperson is extremely pushy and shamelessly intrusive just to close the sale! Won't take no for an answer to the point it is so appalling. Don't care about your circumstances or your business. He just wants to close the deal asap. Asking alot of whys like a low level salesperson. No empathy. No interest for the customer at all. It's all about HIS sale! Utterly selfish and disrespectful!!!
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Kent C.
I keep getting randomised charges for…
I keep getting randomised charges for courses purchased months ago from the organisation. Whenever you email them no one replies. Then when you speak with someone it's a sales person looking to sell you some course. Doesn't seem to have a customer support department.
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Nikki D.
A very scammy company that uses…
A very scammy company that uses high-pressure sales tactics to get people who they know aren't the right fit for the program into it. Charging an exorbitant amount when they only care about getting the initial 1500 from you. And don't care if you can afford to pay for it or not.
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Wren T.
DO NOT BUY FROM THESE PEOPLE THEY WILL…
DO NOT BUY FROM THESE PEOPLE THEY WILL HARASS YOU
Throughout the last 6 months I keep getting text calls and voice mails from this company in the USA and I’m from the Uk meaning I would get charged. I had sent several emails, some people don’t respond and 1 person said they would take me off the call list. It’s been a little while since but hah TODAY in fact JUST NOW I get yet another call and another text. So I sent ANOTHER email telling them to take me off the damned list.
Trust me their sub par information is NOT at all worth the freaking harassment
Edit: they’re also extremely sexist- just look at the review from people who worked there. Do not bother with this company
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Tim O.
The trainings are fine but be prepared for…
The trainings are fine but be prepared for the sales “hyenas” (as previously mentioned) of this company to try to sell you a car you don’t know the color of or how it drives, and if you say no they will treat you like a dirty frat where ten no’s and one yes is still a yes. It seems like the sales team took a “how to sell for dummies” course, ie. Long pauses, asking only yes questions, giving you the obvious problem solutions and close close CLOSE, then close again.
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Kay G.
Business Owners Don't Waste Your Time!
Hello Fellow Business Owners,
I am taking the time to write this review in the hopes that you will find it useful and not waste your time on a sales call that pretends not to be a sales call. The only reason this company does not get 0 stars is because after I purchased the traffic funnel course, I met a nice guy named Carson. He is new to the company so he actually cares and has not been indoctrinated into their company yet. Carson told me I won a free info webinar from their vault and he would send it by email. Somewhere down the road he passed my information off to an advisor, who passed me to another advisor. They have different levels of sales guys apparently. Fast word to the dreaded call. I spoke with a guy named Anthony and he was a real piece of work from the start. He had an attitude problem and seemed to have been a used car salesman in the past, based on the vibes he gave me. I told Anthony I had a call at 10:45a I had to be on. This guy starts with the whole tell me about your business so I can best "help" you pitch. Help is the last thing he wanted to do. He should have said tell me about your business so I can find the best way to sell you! He kept telling me what I needed instead of letting me tell him what I truly needed. He basically tried to sell me a $9800 program that they call the Client Kit. It is a 10-12 week mentorship program and that I was a perfect fir for the company. It's quite pricey, but I was still considering it. I told him that I would need to do my due diligence online before spending almost $10k. He then told me he would send me customer reviews. I told him that's great, but I like to do my own research online. He immediately got an even bigger attitude. He told me I needed to put down a $500 refundable deposit for me to continue the conversation with the company. I told him it was time for my call but to email me. He said "are you saying this call is not important" I said no, I did not say that, but I told you that I am not putting down $500 right now and my other call which is more important is starting. He kept telling me to push back the call, then he told me that I was not a good fit for the program. Thank you Anthony for helping me dodge a bullet. If you are one of the top employees at this company and you act the way you do, then there is NO WAY I would want to spend anymore money working with this company....especially NOT almost $10K!!! Go read the real reviews, not just the ones they want you to see, then make your own educated decision. Don't be fooled or pressured by this company. Save your money!! These guys probably use a service to pay for reviews because based on just asking around in the business community, I can tell you that I have not found one person other than someone who works there, that said anything nice. Again, don't take my word for it, just do a good old Google search! You will see exactly what I am saying. If you are in the business community, ask other business owners their experience, it's disgusting. Traffic and Funnels is great at marketing a crappy product. Good luck and I pray this has helped you dodge a bullet and save you $9800!