Avoid at all costs, you do not need this program and even if you do this same information is available for MUCH cheaper many, many other places. Their methods also only really work for business services/industries (i.e. services that where you promise other businesses you can help them make more money.) I was told by their sales team it was great for creative entrepreneurs too and it ABSOLUTELY is not.
I do not blame others for my choices, I joined this program of my own free will but it is the singular greatest regret I have in my entire life and it took me 2 years to recover from the financial loss of enrollment.
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Layla
Got an invite in my inbox to join a…
Got an invite in my inbox to join a free trial of their masterclass thru Kajabi. I didn't sign up for this and they really didn't give me anything. It seems they just grant access (maybe they bought my email from a list). Either way, scammy!
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Ben M.
Not worth it, invest your time in free Youtube content
I joined T&F quite a while ago and was incredibly bitter about the outcome.
Their outreach tactics got me blacklisted from Facebook groups and I wasn't able to get any support, they said "just wait", and by the time I could resume the training, my time was up and lost all contact, no option to extend my time with them.
I still have access to the training portal, but honestly, there are more valuable Youtube channels out there with free content, in my opinion.
You lose access to the premium Facebook group which was by far the most valuable thing they offered with their course. This was never made clear to me until I signed my contract - which is well written and covers themselves 100% from refunds.
I'm sure it does work for some, but I wouldn't advise anyone to spend, especially if you're just starting out. The value and the guidance aren't tailored except for 1hr call a week.
The one thing they did do well is get me on the road to realizing I need a better mindset - this is literally the only positive I had from this training. You can learn that stuff for free very easily.
On top of that, everyone I met during my time inside also got no results (minimal at best) and had no chance to even break even.
Not worth it at all in my opinion. Hope I saved you your money! Don't let their pushy and aggressive sales tactics get you.
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Tommy
They don't care about you or growing…
They don't care about you or growing your business...
They only care about making more money no matter what.
They use pushy, salsy shi*ty tactics to get people to buy from them.
I bought in some years ago, and 4 weeks in I fell in the cracks. Sent support ticket emails, FB messages and NO answer for 2 weeks.
When I told them this was very unprofessional and unethical for a 10k program and I wanted my money back, they kicked me out.
As they have a bulletproof contract, that they protect 100% themselves but not the client, I couldn't win with my credit card dispute. Their contract says that you cannot have a dispute, no matter what happens. Yes, that was my fault, signing this contract, but back then I didn't have much experience on this. But their contract doesn't protect you if they don't deliver.
I lost 10k to the biggest scammers out there.
They use brainwashing to make it seem that if you are not making it work, it is on you.
Most people in the program where struggling, but most didn't realize it was the program.
Many people out there support their pushy, manipulation tactics, because they feel only care about making money.
DONT invest on them... they program is CRAP.
They don't care about you, they care about making as much money as possible, no matter the service they provide.
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JOSHUA L.
Feels like a scam
I lost interest immediately, just had to talk on the phone. These guys seem come off so greasy. So many better coaching options out there.
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M. Dallas W.
AVOID AT ALL COSTS, ITS CHEAPER
This isn’t business.
This is the equivalent of a bunch of bullies with legal paperwork that force you to pay for a manipulative sales pitch and horrible support and accessibility to what they claim to be their “product.”
MANIPULATING, COERCIVE, BULLIES
ZERO GUARANTEE OF DELIVERY OR SUCCESS
THEY DON’T CARE ABOUT YOU, OR YOUR SUCCESS.
THEY CARE ABOUT USING YOUR CREDIT SCORE TO PAY THEM FROM THEIR OWN SUBSIDY FINANCIAL PARTNER.
MEANWHILE, 10K$ LATER….
YOU'RE STUCK IN A HOLE.
UNETHICAL DIRTY BUSINESS FROM FEAR BASED SCARCITY MINDSETS.
AVOID LIKE PLAGUE.
AT LEAST THE PLAGUE CAN GUARANTEE SOMETHING.
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Robbie A.
SCAM….Beavis and BUTTHEAD
Shady owners Shady people… manipulating…
**UPDATE- They Still ignore me and my lawyer. And one of the owners gloats about how much money he has and real estate investments. Also, you can see when they start to see bad reviews they get "crafty" and start to have people write good reviews... like the one above me named "CUSTOMER", it's all about $ and games with these people.
Shady owners Shady people… manipulating people to buy their Beavis and butthead program.
You make money by lying what you offer and not giving back $5400. Your people like Ben and Lyndsay quit cause they know your brand is shady AFreak.
Your company owes me $5400 money you stole from me that you either use to buy the nice cars you post or down payments on your real estate purchases.
You will never be like the big players in this space due to your immaturity and money scheme scandals.
And cowards for never replying. You hurt me and my family during a rough patch and I am taking it personally.
Social Proof of how bad this company is and would never deal with these owners!
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Cason L.
DO NOT LISTEN TO OTHER REVIEWS.
PLEASE, listen.
The reason the score on trustpilot is so high, no idea. Honestly I think the whole thing is rigged. They will take your money, offer you a course, an amazing dream, hype you up, then when its all said and done, you're left high and dry. DO NOT give them your money.