The Rainmaker Family continues to amaze me! Everything they do, they do out of a commitment to their community. Through my RM journey, I have overcome self-imposed obstacles and am on the road to success. Their trainings and coaching are worth the investment. They love what they do, and it shows. Their optimism and success are contagious!
Response from Rainmaker FamilyAug 5, 2024
Hi Cat and Dan,
Thanks for taking the time and for leaving an amazing review.
We apologize, but we couldn't find your email address and name on our records to provide you some personalized support.
Best,
Your Rainmaker Family
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Stephanie M.
Misleading and Unmet Expectations. Targeting Moms
I am writing to express my profound frustration and disappointment regarding the misleading practices and unmet promises associated with the Rainmaker program. When I enrolled, the 10k payday guarantee was the primary reason I decided to invest, as it seemed like a risk-free opportunity to launch a product. However, the reality has been far from what was advertised. (there are MANY hoops they make you go through to get this, virtually impossible)
Here are the key issues that have left me deeply dissatisfied:
Financial Misrepresentation: The program advertised launching a product for under 10k and guaranteed a return of either 10k in sales or a 10k payday. Instead, I have incurred nearly double that amount in costs, including unforeseen fees like PPC, professional photography, A+ content, and more. Despite reaching the 10k sales mark, I find myself still in significant debt. (20k, and have NOT made a single PENNY back!)
Coaching and Competition: The coaching provided has been inconsistent and misleading. I invested time and money based on guidance that others were pursuing similar products, only to discover later that this information was not accurate. This created unnecessary competition within the community, undermining the collaborative spirit promised.
False Profit Expectations: The program misled participants into believing that high sales equate to profit, which has not been the case. Statements suggesting rapid profitability within three months post-launch were overly optimistic and did not account for the substantial costs involved.
Policy Violations and Censorship: I have also encountered issues within the community, where genuine concerns and experiences shared were censored if they did not align with a positive narrative. This is unacceptable as it suppresses transparency and real-life challenges faced by members.
They use god, and religious sayings in the program, and 1 week challenge, that made me fall into their trap of lies. It made me put trust in them. I WAS SO WRONG. Please do yourself a favor, and don't put yourself financially in debt or even worse as some have bankruptcy all from the Rainmaker Academy. **Also, some have mentioned that they put something in their contract now for new members if they leave a bad review they could be fined $2500!! Ha, what a joke.
Response from Rainmaker FamilyJul 18, 2024
Dear Stephanie,
Thank you for sharing your experience. We understand your frustration and want to address your concerns directly.
We apologize for any misunderstandings regarding the potential costs associated with launching a product. While we strive to provide clear guidance, the e-commerce landscape is dynamic and unforeseen expenses can arise. We're continually refining our materials to better reflect the full spectrum of costs involved.
We value your feedback on the coaching experience. We're committed to providing consistent and valuable support to our members. We'll investigate the specific instances where you felt misled and take appropriate action. Additionally, our coaches receive massive amounts of messages daily but rest assured that our coaches are doing their best to cater to your questions/concerns.
We acknowledge that profitability timelines can vary greatly depending on various factors. Our goal is to provide realistic expectations while also inspiring and motivating our members. We'll review our messaging to ensure it accurately reflects the potential challenges and rewards of e-commerce.
We understand your concern about censorship within the community. Our intention is to maintain a positive and supportive environment for all members. However, we acknowledge that there may have been instances where this balance was not struck appropriately. We're committed to fostering open dialogue and will review our community guidelines to ensure they promote transparency and constructive feedback.
Our intention is to create a sense of community and shared values. We will be mindful of our audience and avoid using language that could be perceived as exclusive or manipulative.
We want to assure you that your concerns are being taken seriously. We invite you to contact our support team directly to discuss your experience in more detail. We are committed to finding a resolution that addresses your issues and improves our program.
Sincerely,
The Rainmaker Team
LH
Laura Holloway J.
I signed up for the mastermind program…
I signed up for the mastermind program and paid our fee in total back in March 2024 I believe. Due to medical issues, I got off track and need to connect with Rainmaker Mastermind program or I need a refund?!
I've tried to leave several email messages with no return response.
I believe my husband and I paid $8 or $9K for the program.
Is there a phone number that I could actually call to talk to someone about getting access for what we paid for or again, I would like a full refund.
Frustrated in Oregon - the Jacobson's
Response from Rainmaker FamilyJul 16, 2024
Dear Laura,
Thank you for reaching out and for sharing your experience with the Rainmaker Mastermind program. We sincerely apologize for the lack of communication you've encountered and the difficulty you've faced in reconnecting with the program.
We understand that due to medical issues, you weren't able to participate fully. We want to assure you that we prioritize the well-being of our members.
Moreover, we've seen that our customer service has responded to your email (and to your second email using your husbands email address) last Monday and we are now currently waiting for your response to our latest email to confirm you rejoining the Mastermind program. We'll ensure you're reconnected with the program.
We value your membership and want to ensure a positive experience. Please accept our apologies for the inconvenience caused. We look forward to reconnecting you with the Mastermind program.
Sincerely,
The Rainmakers Team
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Patty C.
Liars
I have spent close to $25K on this process and have yet to pocket a dime of it. I have credit card debt for the first time in my life. This debt is more than the student loans I had in college and more than I’ve ever owed in a vehicle. They lie to you about the entire process to lure you in. They market to stay-at-home moms and for that they will have a rough day in front of God when their time comes. They need to be stopped. They have sent COUNTLESS mothers into very serious debt.
Response from Rainmaker FamilyJul 11, 2024
Dear Patty,
Thank you for bringing your concerns to our attention, and we are truly sorry to hear about your experience. It's important to clarify that our programs are designed for aspiring entrepreneurs from various backgrounds and demographics.
We understand the seriousness of the financial challenges you've outlined, and we apologize if our communication led to misunderstandings about the process and outcomes. It is never our intention to mislead or cause financial distress.
Your feedback regarding transparency and accuracy is invaluable to us. We are actively reviewing our processes and communications to ensure that all potential participants have a clear understanding of the financial commitments and expectations involved in our programs.
Please reach out to our support team directly so that we can discuss your situation in detail and explore potential ways to assist you. Your satisfaction and success are important to us, and we are committed to addressing your concerns and making improvements where necessary.
Again, we apologize for any distress caused and appreciate your feedback.
Sincerely,
The Rainmakers Team
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Alicia D.
Don’t do it, it’s a trap!
This is one of the biggest scams I’ve ever been a part of. I’m so sad that this couple lures in moms who are struggling and use being a Christian on top of it. I feel so dumb I literally thought it was a sign from God when I came across the Rainmaker ad so I signed up. Here I am a year and a half later, I’ve successfully launched one product on Amazon that took me a year working with a manufacturer to create and launch and I’m over $40K in debt. I am a single mom to two young girls and I’ve had to pull money out of my late father’s 401K money just to pay down SOME of my debt. Do not be deceived, there are other programs out there that will teach you how to do e-commerce without all the greed and empty promises. I joined the Rainmaker Mastermind and some of it did help me launch my product but the cost for the program is outrageous and they teach you to get stacking credit cards to fund your business. I have since found other programs that are affordable and aren’t out to take advantage of anyone. This has been a huge headache for me and I didn’t feel like the Rainmaker Family provided nearly enough assistance for what they charged. This whole thing makes me so sad and angry at the same time. Don’t waste your time and money!
Response from Rainmaker FamilyJul 11, 2024
Dear Alicia,
Thank you for reaching out to share your experience with the Rainmaker Mastermind program. We understand your disappointment and frustration, and we sincerely apologize that the program hasn't met your expectations.
We take your concerns about program transparency and financial responsibility very seriously. We are committed to reviewing our marketing materials and program content to ensure they accurately reflect the required investment and effort involved in launching a successful Amazon FBA business.
We acknowledge your feedback regarding the level of assistance provided to members. We are actively exploring ways to enhance our support system and ensure our Rainmaker Family community offers a truly valuable and supportive environment.
We appreciate you finding alternative programs that better align with your needs. Your success in e-commerce is important to us. While we understand your experience hasn't been ideal, we would be happy to connect you with a member of our support team if you have any remaining questions or require clarification on specific program elements.
We value your honest feedback, and it plays a crucial role in our ongoing improvement efforts.
Sincerely,
The Rainmaker Team
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Wheela L.
Wonderfully Empowering Community
I just completed my 8 week program in the Master Mind, to be honest I felt like I could do it all myself, by myself with the amazing course the Rainmakers has laid out HOWEVER, I had a shift at the end of my eight weeks, how much superpower is pumped into your veins when you say YES to achievement and believing in yourself, not yourself by yourself but in a network of amazing powerful and successful mentors that want to share and teach their wisdom with you. Such a great community. Another huge bonus, there is constant growth in the Rainmakers, business and personal development... always seeking to evolve the business inside and out.
Response from Rainmaker FamilyJul 11, 2024
Dear Wheela,
Thank you for sharing your inspiring feedback on your experience with the Master Mind program at Rainmakers. We're thrilled to hear that you found our course content empowering and well-structured for independent learning.
It's gratifying to know that you experienced a transformative shift during your eight weeks with us, discovering the immense power of believing in yourself and leveraging the support of a network of mentors. Our community takes great pride in fostering a supportive environment where knowledge sharing and mentorship thrive.
Thank you once again for your positive review. We look forward to supporting your ongoing journey towards achievement and success.
Warm regards,
The Rainmakers Team
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Emily D.
FALSE ADVERTISING/MISLEADING
I found their 7 day challenge in the winter of 2021. I was sucked in and totally convinced by their testimonials and success stories. I fell for their emotional targeting of stay at home moms. I wanted everything they told me I could have (a legacy for my kids, financial freedom, more time with my family, a PASSIVE business) if only I followed their program. So I did. I bought their program and even purchased their “DFY product” as I was told it would fast track my success. I was eager to get my husband off of 2 jobs and home more. I followed their program to a T. The product did not preform the way they told me it would. They estimated 3-6 months to sell out, it took 2 years. In fact NONE of their numbers were correct that they gave me. It cost 2x the amount to have manufactured, and all the fees and advertising that you have to pay… none of that was really disclosed or factored in. I had no clue. Apart of the DFY product is also connecting you with a manufacturer so you can just “pick the conversation up”… that also never happened. It took me months and months to find the right manufacturer to work with. I finally launched my product. It was not going the way the RM’s told me it would even though I was following their instructions and program every step of the way. I made several adjustments and when those didn’t help, I did reach out to RM’s for guidance. I felt I was totally gaslit. They said it was my mindset that needed help, and I just needed to “pivot” and think “how can I”… Bottom line is: They don’t give you the full picture of what you’re really getting yourself into. It costs WAY more to be successful and I think the success stories they share are outliers. In fact I'm certain of this based on all the posts of fellow women like me, desperate for help after getting in over their heads only to have their post deleted from the group “to protect other members”… can anyone say ‘cultish’? In other words, unsuccessful stories are not allowed. I’m pretty ashamed for believing their marketing and sales tactics. It hurt my family and our finances. They over simplified and over promised. I lost so much money and the biggest hurt here is that I’ve lost my family heirlooms: my great grandfathers paintings. I sold them to fund some of this nonsense. Those should have been my kids inheritance… but because I thought for sure I could buy them back (and then some) after I did the RM’s mastermind program, I sold them. I fear I’ll never get them back. Everything the RM’s are telling us, it is just not so. We were in more debt and therefore my husband had to work longer hours. We sold our home to payoff the debt we couldn’t carry month to month anymore. Maybe at one point this program was relevant and helpful, I can’t imagine when. It seems the founders are only focused on growing to a billion dollar company and they will turn a blind eye to all of the harm they are causing to do so. I just want to help warn other women, this isn’t for everyone, it’s not as easy and simple as they make it out to be and there are far more women struggling financially because of it.
Response from Rainmaker FamilyJul 11, 2024
Dear Emily,
Thank you for sharing your honest feedback about your experience with the Rainmaker program. We apologize sincerely that our program did not meet your expectations and caused significant challenges for you and your family.
We acknowledge that our marketing may have oversimplified the path to e-commerce success. Building a sustainable Amazon business demands dedication and effort. Moving forward, we are committed to updating our marketing materials to highlight the realistic work involved, alongside potential rewards. Our aim is to equip you with the necessary knowledge and tools without creating unrealistic expectations.
Your feedback on DFY product performance is appreciated, and we are currently enhancing these offerings based on feedback like yours. This includes providing more accurate sales projections, clearer manufacturing cost details, and a streamlined process to connect you with suitable manufacturers.
Recognizing the importance of practical solutions, we are revamping our coaching program to offer a more personalized approach. Additionally, we are implementing a feedback system for members to ensure your coaching needs are effectively met.
We value our supportive Rainmaker community and apologize if your concerns were not addressed constructively in the past. We are reviewing our community moderation practices to foster open communication. Please feel free to reach out directly to our dedicated support team with any future concerns.
We understand the significant impact this experience has had on your family, particularly the loss of irreplaceable heirlooms. Your story underscores the importance of thorough research before embarking on any business venture.
While we cannot change the past, we are committed to transforming Rainmaker into a program that empowers and supports aspiring entrepreneurs. We would appreciate the opportunity to connect directly with you to explore how we can assist you further, even if it means guiding you towards alternative solutions. Your feedback is invaluable to our ongoing improvements, and we hope to regain your trust in the future.
Best regards,
The Rainmaker Team
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Vanessa C.
From one mom to another don’t believe it
I invested in this program back in 2022, I really believed what they were selling but after investing so much in the program I am now in a crazy amount of debt, they recommend you work with a consulting company to finance your business well that gave me multiple credit cards - then I even paid extra not just for the mastermind but for them to give me a product idea, I looked into the product idea and after further investigating the product idea they recommended me was a bust, I had to do my own search- when I finally got time to work with their recommended sourcing site the product I wanted to invest in just wasn’t possible anymore I had racked a lot of debt in the initial investment then in all the programs they recommend helium 10, getting trademark, now I am stuck having to make payments on all these cards I have because from the start I didn’t think I needed this amount of money to get started - they made it seem like a little seed money can get you there and that’s not the case. I am lucky I have a job that I can catch up with this but now I am a mom that hasn’t been able to have the financial freedom because of this more like a financial strain. Don’t fall for this like I and others did. I wish I could get my money back.
Response from Rainmaker FamilyJul 8, 2024
Hi Vanessa,
Thank you for reaching out and sharing your experience. We understand your frustration and want to sincerely apologize that the Rainmaker program hasn't lived up to your expectations.
We acknowledge your concerns about the debt incurred through recommended financing companies. We're reviewing our program materials to ensure a clearer picture of potential upfront costs and ongoing expenses associated with launching an Amazon FBA business.
You're absolutely right - success in e-commerce requires more than just "seed money." We're revising our marketing materials to emphasize the dedication and effort required to build a sustainable business.
We want to be a valuable resource for our members. We're implementing a system for members to share honest feedback about recommended tools and services.
We understand the financial strain you're facing. We'd love to connect you with our support team for a personalized consultation. We want to hear your specific goals and explore ways we can assist you, even if it's outside the Rainmaker program itself.
We value your feedback and are committed to continuous improvement. We hope to regain your trust and be a resource for you in the future.
Sincerely,
The Rainmaker Team
