Rainmaker FamilyReviews of therainmakerchallenge.com

Previously reviewed this before. After going through trying to get my 10k payday “guarantee” I figured I could post another warning to other moms or anyone looking into this Program. They try and upsell everything. The “coaching” is brief and minimal. They use the Facebook page for the community of lost souls and puppies to answer and help eachother out. Coaching calls are so so and honestly the owners are not very hands on. One reason stated why I didn’t receive a refund was “I was no longer in the mastermind” I pulled out my contract and no where in there says that I needed to STILL be a member as the cost is thousands per year to remain a Facebook group member with the rest of the lost souls. I’m part of another mom group and there are Sooo many rainmakers who are NOT successful, not because our mindset is off, but because these trainings are base level and simply this company is trying to profit off your loss. They sell a high ticket course and have upsells. The marketing team gets the boot of they don’t hit a quota in sales of the mastermind I’m sure… no other way they are selling false promises and lies. Their employees write 5 star reviews. TURN and run. I’ll private message any potentials just to turn them away from this scam. Lots of bankrupt families etc. I could go on and on about all of the issues of this business but it starts from the founders unfortunately and plain and simple it’s a business to them.

The program is not at all what they claim it to be. I paid almost $6000 into this and am very disappointed. I really wish I would have read these reviews before i gave my hard earned money to them. It has been 5 months since I reached out to them to see about getting my money back and it is has been crickets, nothing, no response!

This company is awful and their course teaches things that goes against Amazon's TOS which could get your account shutdown if you follow. All the positive reviews are old and fake. The founding coaches have all left and regret giving those reviews.

I am a former Rainmaker in ~$30k+ debt and filing bankruptcy. Rainmakers: - targets moms and families trying to secure their financial future. - sells a grossly overpriced product. - encourages using credit to fund it. - misrepresents success rates. - seriously underestimates start up costs. - fails to communicate time requirements. - has an upsell around every corner. - makes false promises. The list goes on. I was sold a program that promised to take me from an “Exhausted Mama to a $10k/Month Business That Run In A Couple of Hours Per Week” Rainmakers paints a perfect picture during their Challenge. Time freedom, financial freedom, a support group of other sellers and coaches, work during nap time, low start up costs, etc. They target moms from many walks of life by presenting themselves as a faithful and trustworthy young couple. They teach us how to fund our business several ways in the challenge. Like selling your possessions, asking family for a loan, taking out multiple credit cards to name a few. Fortunately, they can recommend a company to help you stack a bunch of credit cards. They tell us we will be paying those credit cards off before the 0% APR is up. They “recommend” another company to set up your business. Then they upsell for tax services and business credit counseling. By the time you pay for all that you are already $8,000+ in the hole and you haven’t even bought inventory. This business starts with minimal hours. Watch videos in your free time and go at your own pace. Check the Facebook group and “keep a positive mindset”. Keep chugging along. Eventually, you hit a snag and ask a question. Then you hit another and another and another. Eventually, crickets when you ask for help. The whole process has cost thousands more between manufacturing, shipping, listing photos, and numerous other expenses they don’t disclose. You’re so invested that you keep going, confident you’ll see your “first order pay for your second order.” ~ Rainmakers. Then it doesn’t and you ask them why. You ask for help. Blame is placed on you and then they upsell you for an hour with a coach. All too often they just remove your post or comment if it gets a little too sad or truthful. They heavily censor the Mastermind Facebook group. Any post depicting Rainmakers in a negative light is removed. Any comment disclosing “a failure” is removed. Members are then placed on post approval. Keep it up and they will remove you from the group entirely. Simply posting about your personal experience with their program is censored asap if it doesn’t have a happy ending. I have numerous screenshots of the problems other members are facing and the overwhelming debt people are facing as a direct result of Rainmakers. As if that isn’t enough. Oh yeah, your 12 month subscription is up. You need to pay $99+/month to continue having access to the community. Their latest upsell was to offer lifetime Facebook group access for $3,333. But, you have to sign a contract stating you can’t say anything bad about them - ever. Plus, they can kick you out whenever they feel like it. Can’t pay to renew? Good luck, let us know if you hit an award milestone so we can feature you on our Instagram! Rainmakers leaves a lot of important information out of their challenge and mastermind. Their product qualifier tool is incomplete and does not calculate an accurate estimated profit margin. They introduced a paid upgrade that includes the missing costs while I was a member. One of many paid upgrades including an hour with Stephen Diaz for $2500. Rainmakers promises to teach you, “How to find winning products to produce time & financial freedom for your family online.” This could not be further from the outcome most students find themselves in. Rainmakers will upsell you every chance they get. They will accept any person that can pay the Mastermind fee of ~$7800 and is willing to sign a contract that protects Rainmakers in almost every way. I paid the $2000 for a “Done For You” product. What they gave me was a poorly researched product that cost way more than they projected to produce. Contrary to their claims in the Challenge, Rainmakers will leave you in a worse financial position 95% of the time. Some Mastermind members are offered refunds with non-disclosure and non-disparagement at Rainmaker’s discretion. If you don’t accept, they will rebuke every review you write with lies to protect their public image. The one positive was meeting so many people like myself that I continue to connect with on a personal and professional level. All are current and former Rainmakers who stopped drinking the kool-aid. Edited to add follow up - I already had your Overlord, Stephen Diaz, look at my specific situation. He referred me to your legal team.

I went through Mastermind and everything. They sell you this "you can't fail and if you do you have us and your family to support you" I was bought in to the "family always here for you, we have you" lip service. I completed everything step by step just as they told me to do and I was very conservative with a lot of my decisions. Amazon ended up banning my product, no way of me knowing. I reached out to Rainmakers pleading for help and guidance. I was asking for more time. I understood business was a risk. I didn't expect them to pay me back the thousands of dollars I had already given them. I just wanted more time in the facebook group and on the calls. THEY NEVER RESPONDED. I never heard anything until I was charged more money. I disputed the charge and then was eventually kicked out still not hearing a thing. I STRONGLY caution anyone considering Mastermind. You could end up further in debt and further in financial hardships because of this.

I ordered a wallet that was charged to my account, but no confirmation or email was received. I followed up with an email which took almost a week to reply back. The person who replied could not find the email from my order. I sent back a reply with proof of charge and order number. A day later I got an email saying my order was canceled and the $ returned. There was partial return and not for the whole amount which was not right. I proceed to send another email giving a chance to correct and as of today I have not heard from them. It's a shame, I did not wanted my $$$, I wanted the product I ordered.

Today my initial anonymous trustpilot review became "verified" after the Rainmaker Family tried to flag it. I submitted my invoice (which would make my identity known with little effort) to their almost 6k program and a screenshot of the Rainmaker MasterMind Facebook group to "prove" I was yes a real member if efforts to keep my review up. Do you know what also happened TODAY? I was removed from BOTH the mastermind group (though I was due to come out this month) AND the Rainmaker Family Challenge Facebook group. The second facebook group is free and you are able to stay a member of even after your mastermind memberships expires. They are many previous mastermind members in that group. How can they improve? All your mastermind members want is to be aware UPFRONT of the costs and risks of this program. Almost daily people are posting about the costs, need to liquidate, lost inventory, PPC cost, etc. They delete everyone who is too vocal about their struggle and do not spit rainbows out of their mouth with each real problem. Please quit trying to silence us. We ALL have noticed the increase in positive reviews shortly have you were swarmed on here with negative feedback. The Rainmaker Family seemingly will do anything to keep the empire they have built, regardless of the expense to others.

I paid $5,800 for them to “teach” me things that are free on Amazon’s Sellers Central. They encourage you to go into a lot of debt and don’t discuss the risk. I was removed from the group for stating that I was sold a false promise and reached out to them for at least a partial refund but just kept getting passed around. I am one of MANY disappointed members.