Rainmaker FamilyReviews of therainmakerchallenge.com

It pains me to write this review as the pain resonates deeply, but in light of the most recent influx of new 5 star reviews being submitted by newer Rainmaker students (they truly don’t know any better) let’s begin. I joined the Rainmaker program in November of 2021. At that time, I trusted that The Rainmaker Family and their team had my best interest at heart - especially since they market towards stay at home moms looking to gain more time and financial freedom for their families. Unfortunately, I have since learned that was pure naivety on my behalf. I should have listened to that little figure of doubt on my shoulder: if it seems too good to be true, it almost ALWAYS is. But they have a way of drawing you in, gaining trust, hope, and excitement to lock you in. I was “all in” and put my family in initial debt just to join their Mastermind program. At the time of my admittance, the cost to join and learn how to start an Amazon FBA business was $5000 (it is now up to $7800 for the base entry, with much more expensive "VIP" packages and upsells). From there, my debt only continued to grow to upwards of $11,000 (not including what I paid Rainmakers) with business start-up fees, required software, inventory I had to purchase, and so much more. This was the first big shock to me, since during their sales pitch they talk so much about how "affordable" this is, and how "anyone can do it". They kept saying that you don't need a ton of money to get started, and that once you join their program they will also teach you other ways to make money so that you can pay off these debts. They are NOWHERE near honest about how much it will ACTUALLY cost to start up or be successful in this business. Still, I saw value in what I could be doing. A business I could build. The thing they DON'T tell their students is that they receive a kickback in the form of a commission (and free vehicles!) from the majority of the services they recommend or require that you sign up for, such as Helium 10, Jing Sourcing, 7 Figures Funding (credit card stacking, yikes!). The worst one of all is Prime Corporate Services, a large waste of $1000s for me (but hey, they make money off it so why would they stop promoting them even after many complaints?!) This is deceptively misleading, as they are required to disclose commission on any links supplied but never did - and never do. Ultimately, I felt comfortable joining their Mastermind program because they have a smart sales tactic called the "10k Payday Guarantee". They describe this as a safety net and promise that if you don't make $10k in sales, they will personally pay you $10k. If anyone knows about this, you know it sounds like a foolproof reason to join! They even tout the guarantee on their website as proudly never having to pay it out before - which sounds great until you realize that the parameters you have to meet to actually claim this guarantee are SO outlandish and that the reason they say they have never paid it out before is not because no one has tried to claim it, but because they deny every request if possible. About one year after I joined the program, I learned how deceptive their sales tactics really are. Before joining the Mastermind program, you're told that there are "limited spots available" and that you have to submit an application for them to review and verify if you are a good fit for their program or not. This creates a sense of exclusivity, but upon joining the team I learned that it was just a lie. They let anyone in with a pulse and a credit card. Many women are in more debt than they ever imagined from joining this program. When women speak up for themselves with struggles they are having, they are silenced and their posts are immediately removed from the group - their voices literally deleted from the community. Personally, I am doing my best to recover from the largest debt I have been in other than the purchase of my home! When is enough enough? When will it FINALLY be enough to stop peddling a Mastermind program at $6800+ for one year, a failing Inner Circle program at up to $16k, a new 90 day influencer program for $3000, Lifetime access that isn’t truly Lifetime?? With a non-disparagement clause that forbids unhappy students from leaving a negative review or else getting fined??? As you can see, Trust Pilot reviews are all over the place. They are regarding so many different offerings from the company, but the biggest red flag is that a large handful of the 5 star reviews they have received are from staff that have been asked to do so. This is deceptive and against TOS - just like everything else they do. This is my story and my truth. I gain nothing from writing this review other than a hope that more women do not fall victim to crippling debt and gaslighting.

This isn’t going to be your typical review on a program. Most of the reviews you are seeing are from recent challenge takers who haven’t gone through the process. They are hyped from the emotional high they received. I encourage you to look for the reviews from woman who have been a part of rainmakers for YEARS, followed the process and time and time again in DIDN’T WORK. You are probably reading this because you are trying to decide if you want to invest thousands of dollars into a program that promises financial freedom and “transformation” My family fell for those claims as well. They knew exactly what to say to hand over thousands of dollars to their program only to be left with a crippling amount of debt. I was apart of their community for 4 years, poured my life into it and then the company started changing and became focused on profit and conversions, not actually listening to the community feedback. They recommend services like 7 Figures Funding and Prime services. Community members (including my family) only had bad experiences with these companies and begged The Rainmaker Family to remove them as resources. But the financial kickback for Rainmakers was too appealing to do the right thing. I was on the leadership team for a year and my voice was silenced when I brought up concerns with the direction the Rainmakers was heading. I was in the trenches and listening to the voices of the community instead of sucking up to the big dogs and crafting my opinion on how to make the owners richer. This ultimately lead to me being let go and eventually blocked from all Rainmaker groups. My heart has always been to see Rainmakers succeed in their original mission, which was to help families create financial freedom. As soon as that changed to “how can we make rainmakers post profitable at the cost of shady business tactics and causing hundreds and hundreds of families to go into crippling debt” I could no longer recommend people to invest into this company and that’s why I give it a 1 star. Please think long and hard before signing up with them.

I am writing to express my profound frustration and disappointment regarding the misleading practices and unmet promises associated with the Rainmaker program. When I enrolled, the 10k payday guarantee was the primary reason I decided to invest, as it seemed like a risk-free opportunity to launch a product. However, the reality has been far from what was advertised. (there are MANY hoops they make you go through to get this, virtually impossible) Here are the key issues that have left me deeply dissatisfied: Financial Misrepresentation: The program advertised launching a product for under 10k and guaranteed a return of either 10k in sales or a 10k payday. Instead, I have incurred nearly double that amount in costs, including unforeseen fees like PPC, professional photography, A+ content, and more. Despite reaching the 10k sales mark, I find myself still in significant debt. (20k, and have NOT made a single PENNY back!) Coaching and Competition: The coaching provided has been inconsistent and misleading. I invested time and money based on guidance that others were pursuing similar products, only to discover later that this information was not accurate. This created unnecessary competition within the community, undermining the collaborative spirit promised. False Profit Expectations: The program misled participants into believing that high sales equate to profit, which has not been the case. Statements suggesting rapid profitability within three months post-launch were overly optimistic and did not account for the substantial costs involved. Policy Violations and Censorship: I have also encountered issues within the community, where genuine concerns and experiences shared were censored if they did not align with a positive narrative. This is unacceptable as it suppresses transparency and real-life challenges faced by members. They use god, and religious sayings in the program, and 1 week challenge, that made me fall into their trap of lies. It made me put trust in them. I WAS SO WRONG. Please do yourself a favor, and don't put yourself financially in debt or even worse as some have bankruptcy all from the Rainmaker Academy. **Also, some have mentioned that they put something in their contract now for new members if they leave a bad review they could be fined $2500!! Ha, what a joke.

I have spent close to $25K on this process and have yet to pocket a dime of it. I have credit card debt for the first time in my life. This debt is more than the student loans I had in college and more than I’ve ever owed in a vehicle. They lie to you about the entire process to lure you in. They market to stay-at-home moms and for that they will have a rough day in front of God when their time comes. They need to be stopped. They have sent COUNTLESS mothers into very serious debt.

This is one of the biggest scams I’ve ever been a part of. I’m so sad that this couple lures in moms who are struggling and use being a Christian on top of it. I feel so dumb I literally thought it was a sign from God when I came across the Rainmaker ad so I signed up. Here I am a year and a half later, I’ve successfully launched one product on Amazon that took me a year working with a manufacturer to create and launch and I’m over $40K in debt. I am a single mom to two young girls and I’ve had to pull money out of my late father’s 401K money just to pay down SOME of my debt. Do not be deceived, there are other programs out there that will teach you how to do e-commerce without all the greed and empty promises. I joined the Rainmaker Mastermind and some of it did help me launch my product but the cost for the program is outrageous and they teach you to get stacking credit cards to fund your business. I have since found other programs that are affordable and aren’t out to take advantage of anyone. This has been a huge headache for me and I didn’t feel like the Rainmaker Family provided nearly enough assistance for what they charged. This whole thing makes me so sad and angry at the same time. Don’t waste your time and money!

I found their 7 day challenge in the winter of 2021. I was sucked in and totally convinced by their testimonials and success stories. I fell for their emotional targeting of stay at home moms. I wanted everything they told me I could have (a legacy for my kids, financial freedom, more time with my family, a PASSIVE business) if only I followed their program. So I did. I bought their program and even purchased their “DFY product” as I was told it would fast track my success. I was eager to get my husband off of 2 jobs and home more. I followed their program to a T. The product did not preform the way they told me it would. They estimated 3-6 months to sell out, it took 2 years. In fact NONE of their numbers were correct that they gave me. It cost 2x the amount to have manufactured, and all the fees and advertising that you have to pay… none of that was really disclosed or factored in. I had no clue. Apart of the DFY product is also connecting you with a manufacturer so you can just “pick the conversation up”… that also never happened. It took me months and months to find the right manufacturer to work with. I finally launched my product. It was not going the way the RM’s told me it would even though I was following their instructions and program every step of the way. I made several adjustments and when those didn’t help, I did reach out to RM’s for guidance. I felt I was totally gaslit. They said it was my mindset that needed help, and I just needed to “pivot” and think “how can I”… Bottom line is: They don’t give you the full picture of what you’re really getting yourself into. It costs WAY more to be successful and I think the success stories they share are outliers. In fact I'm certain of this based on all the posts of fellow women like me, desperate for help after getting in over their heads only to have their post deleted from the group “to protect other members”… can anyone say ‘cultish’? In other words, unsuccessful stories are not allowed. I’m pretty ashamed for believing their marketing and sales tactics. It hurt my family and our finances. They over simplified and over promised. I lost so much money and the biggest hurt here is that I’ve lost my family heirlooms: my great grandfathers paintings. I sold them to fund some of this nonsense. Those should have been my kids inheritance… but because I thought for sure I could buy them back (and then some) after I did the RM’s mastermind program, I sold them. I fear I’ll never get them back. Everything the RM’s are telling us, it is just not so. We were in more debt and therefore my husband had to work longer hours. We sold our home to payoff the debt we couldn’t carry month to month anymore. Maybe at one point this program was relevant and helpful, I can’t imagine when. It seems the founders are only focused on growing to a billion dollar company and they will turn a blind eye to all of the harm they are causing to do so. I just want to help warn other women, this isn’t for everyone, it’s not as easy and simple as they make it out to be and there are far more women struggling financially because of it.

I invested in this program back in 2022, I really believed what they were selling but after investing so much in the program I am now in a crazy amount of debt, they recommend you work with a consulting company to finance your business well that gave me multiple credit cards - then I even paid extra not just for the mastermind but for them to give me a product idea, I looked into the product idea and after further investigating the product idea they recommended me was a bust, I had to do my own search- when I finally got time to work with their recommended sourcing site the product I wanted to invest in just wasn’t possible anymore I had racked a lot of debt in the initial investment then in all the programs they recommend helium 10, getting trademark, now I am stuck having to make payments on all these cards I have because from the start I didn’t think I needed this amount of money to get started - they made it seem like a little seed money can get you there and that’s not the case. I am lucky I have a job that I can catch up with this but now I am a mom that hasn’t been able to have the financial freedom because of this more like a financial strain. Don’t fall for this like I and others did. I wish I could get my money back.

### Review: Beware of Rainmaker Group - A Costly Scam I regretfully joined the Rainmaker Group in March 2023 after taking the 7 day challenge and then joined thier Master Mind, and it has been a nightmare that goes against Amazon's TOS as they campaign for reviews within their community. The program is filled with old positive reviews from former employees, which is incredibly deceiving. They show people’s sales figures but not the profits, marketing these as celebrations while we sellers struggle to make it work. Rainmaker promises passive income and minimal startup costs, but this couldn't be further from the truth. The initial Challenge program is deceptively easy and inexpensive, but once you pay thousands for their Mastermind, you're trapped in a financial quagmire, feeling compelled to go into debt because you've already invested so much. The Challenge doesn't disclose all the ongoing expenses you’ll face. Only after joining the Mastermind group do you realize the full extent of the costs. They constantly upsell, making you pay more for additional help because they know you will be asking for help, while their coaching is minimal at best. I tagged my coach with questions and never received any responses. Their "Done For You" (DFY) product, which we paid extra for, took forever to arrive. We joined in March and didn't get the DFY until May, followed by more delays for manufacturer recommendations. By the time everything came together, their promise of a $10K guarantee within six months was impossible to achieve. Many of us who took the Challenge and joined the Mastermind are now drowning in debt, financially stressed, and unable to sell our products. Each Amazon payday, we owe more to Amazon because of advertising costs, FBA fees, referral fees, and storage fees. Despite following their instructions to the letter and even hiring their recommended company, Spectrum BPO, for $612 a month, we saw no ranking improvements, hardly any sales, and no success. Run far away from the Rainmaker Group. They have ruined so many of us financially, and we are denied refunds and told that we need to change our mindset. Honest posts in the Mastermind Facebook group lead to being kicked out, silencing those who speak the truth. I deeply regret the day I joined and wish I could turn back time. ***In response to Rainmaker Group (RM) below: It's clear that RM's replies are mostly copied and pasted, as evident from similar responses given to others who have left reviews on various platforms. RM made numerous promises of easy income, ample coaching, and assistance, which are blatant lies. They lure innocent stay-at-home moms with their deceptive ads, creating a false sense of security and hope. Their recent narrative justifying the massive debt people incur from their program is outrageous, claiming that recommended programs are optional. Stephen Diaz's statement, "it's your fault for buying things we recommend," is both insensitive and irresponsible. This attitude highlights how little he cares about the harm caused to countless families struggling because of RM's misleading promises. It's appalling how Diaz benefits financially from all the recommended programs through affiliate links while we, the participants, face financial ruin. He has lined his pockets with our desperate attempts to succeed in the RM program, leaving us stuck with unsold products on Amazon and mounting debts. This lack of accountability and compassion is truly disheartening and unacceptable.